Comments on: Paul Helmke’s Reasoning For Not Allowing College Students To Have Guns http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2007/06/10/paul-helmkes-reasoning-for-not-allowing-college-students-to-have-guns/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=paul-helmkes-reasoning-for-not-allowing-college-students-to-have-guns Black Bear Blog - The Politics of Hunting, Fishing and the Outdoors. Protecting our American Heritage. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ithaca37 http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2007/06/10/paul-helmkes-reasoning-for-not-allowing-college-students-to-have-guns/#comment-4851 Ithaca37 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:49:25 +0000 http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/?p=2211#comment-4851 Actually, all of the reports placed the shooter at the front of the room(s) and the rest of the people hiding together at the back of the room. Furthermore, the fact that when the professor blocked the door the shooter only shot at teh door a few times and then left suggests that, like many shooters, he was not looking for a fight. If he was not looking to encounter resistance, the mere presence of an armed individual trying to stop him might have caused him to wither stop or change his position to enable a clear shot. But the the real question is if a "civilian" (I hate that term) can not shoot at him because they could hit someone esle, what are the police going to do when go in after him?? Actually, all of the reports placed the shooter at the front of the room(s) and the rest of the people hiding together at the back of the room. Furthermore, the fact that when the professor blocked the door the shooter only shot at teh door a few times and then left suggests that, like many shooters, he was not looking for a fight. If he was not looking to encounter resistance, the mere presence of an armed individual trying to stop him might have caused him to wither stop or change his position to enable a clear shot.

But the the real question is if a “civilian” (I hate that term) can not shoot at him because they could hit someone esle, what are the police going to do when go in after him??

]]> By: Kristine Shreve http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2007/06/10/paul-helmkes-reasoning-for-not-allowing-college-students-to-have-guns/#comment-4850 Kristine Shreve Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:12:17 +0000 http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/?p=2211#comment-4850 Another issue that no one likes to mention, but which sometimes needs to be addressed is this: Sometimes one person will need to be sacrificed to save the lives of many. The professor who saved the lives of his students at VA Tech knew that. If an armed student or professor had been on the campus that day, it is true they might have injured or killed an innocent person in their attempt to stop the gunman. They might also have been able to prevent a large number of needless deaths. No one advocates handing out guns like candy and allowing everyone to have them without any vetting or training. It is also true that no one can predict how they will act in a crisis situation until that situation occurs. If, however, you are trained to use a gun, have been taught how to shoot, and have been certified by experts as having the necessary knowledge and expertise to handle a firearm responsibly, why is it out of the question that you could handle that firearm responsibly in a crisis situation? Another issue that no one likes to mention, but which sometimes needs to be addressed is this: Sometimes one person will need to be sacrificed to save the lives of many.

The professor who saved the lives of his students at VA Tech knew that. If an armed student or professor had been on the campus that day, it is true they might have injured or killed an innocent person in their attempt to stop the gunman. They might also have been able to prevent a large number of needless deaths.

No one advocates handing out guns like candy and allowing everyone to have them without any vetting or training. It is also true that no one can predict how they will act in a crisis situation until that situation occurs. If, however, you are trained to use a gun, have been taught how to shoot, and have been certified by experts as having the necessary knowledge and expertise to handle a firearm responsibly, why is it out of the question that you could handle that firearm responsibly in a crisis situation?

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