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	<title>Comments on: Expert Advice On Dealing With Black Bears</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Rizza</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2007/06/23/expert-advice-on-dealing-with-black-bears/#comment-4959</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Rizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons I stopped camping at NY State forest preserve campgrounds is because they have made you a prisoner in your own campsites.  Rather then dealing harshly with errant bears and teaching them a lesson, or removing bold bears from the gene pool entirely, we have to decamp literally between every meal.  Can&#039;t have a snack in your tent, or so much as leave a cooking spoon out it ALL has to be packed away into a secure place (usually, your car) between every meal.  That&#039;s not fun to me.

There is a genetic factor in behavior as well.   Thru history, bears who thought humans might be tasty didn&#039;t last long or spread their genes very successfully.   Humans would respond with anger and revenge at heart if a bear killed one of their friends or children.  This is why (in general) a grizzly bear will run away from a human.  But modern society is doing a very good job at bringing back bold bruins of every size who are responding more and more by running TOWARD human settlements and less by running away from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I stopped camping at NY State forest preserve campgrounds is because they have made you a prisoner in your own campsites.  Rather then dealing harshly with errant bears and teaching them a lesson, or removing bold bears from the gene pool entirely, we have to decamp literally between every meal.  Can&#8217;t have a snack in your tent, or so much as leave a cooking spoon out it ALL has to be packed away into a secure place (usually, your car) between every meal.  That&#8217;s not fun to me.</p>
<p>There is a genetic factor in behavior as well.   Thru history, bears who thought humans might be tasty didn&#8217;t last long or spread their genes very successfully.   Humans would respond with anger and revenge at heart if a bear killed one of their friends or children.  This is why (in general) a grizzly bear will run away from a human.  But modern society is doing a very good job at bringing back bold bruins of every size who are responding more and more by running TOWARD human settlements and less by running away from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be some link to reduced hunting of bears and increased human/bear encounters. I agree that encroachment is the number one reason for the increases but you have to realize too that along with this encroachment often times comes the closure of hunting opportunities for people. New Jersey is such an example. Just yesterday New Jersey announced that human/bear encounter reports hit an all time high and New Jersey refuses to allow any kind of bear hunt in that state.

I don&#039;t have the statistics in front of me but I think it would be reasonable to assume that visits to National Parks, etc. is on the rise. It would stand to reason because according to the latest report from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, wildlife viewing has increased significantly over the past decade.

With that further encroachment whether through development or visits to the woods PLUS and increase in bear population, the end result is more encounters.

Hunting is the best known and most reliable means of game animal population control. Without it, too many animals competing for the same habitat. This often forces these animals out into &quot;our&quot; territory.

I think the &quot;positive&quot; link can surely be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has to be some link to reduced hunting of bears and increased human/bear encounters. I agree that encroachment is the number one reason for the increases but you have to realize too that along with this encroachment often times comes the closure of hunting opportunities for people. New Jersey is such an example. Just yesterday New Jersey announced that human/bear encounter reports hit an all time high and New Jersey refuses to allow any kind of bear hunt in that state.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the statistics in front of me but I think it would be reasonable to assume that visits to National Parks, etc. is on the rise. It would stand to reason because according to the latest report from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, wildlife viewing has increased significantly over the past decade.</p>
<p>With that further encroachment whether through development or visits to the woods PLUS and increase in bear population, the end result is more encounters.</p>
<p>Hunting is the best known and most reliable means of game animal population control. Without it, too many animals competing for the same habitat. This often forces these animals out into &#8220;our&#8221; territory.</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;positive&#8221; link can surely be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Ithaca37</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ithaca37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not as much bans on hunting as it is urban sprawl that has led to increased human-wild animal contacts.  As people push father out into &quot;the woods&quot;, the less space there is for wildlife.  

The fact that there have been more attacks recently doesn&#039;t mean anything unless you look at urban sprawl and what has happened to the number of national park visitors.  I do not know if there are more people visiting national parks or not, but until someone can demonstrate that there has not been a significant change in other factors there can be no positive link between number of bear attacks and hunting bans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not as much bans on hunting as it is urban sprawl that has led to increased human-wild animal contacts.  As people push father out into &#8220;the woods&#8221;, the less space there is for wildlife.  </p>
<p>The fact that there have been more attacks recently doesn&#8217;t mean anything unless you look at urban sprawl and what has happened to the number of national park visitors.  I do not know if there are more people visiting national parks or not, but until someone can demonstrate that there has not been a significant change in other factors there can be no positive link between number of bear attacks and hunting bans.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2007/06/23/expert-advice-on-dealing-with-black-bears/#comment-4954</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it was my intention to provide some links to the data that I had compiled to show I didn&#039;t just pull it out my....ear. This link, http://www.southeasternoutdoors.com/wildlife/mammals/black-bear-attacks-fatal.html
says there have been 52 known fatal attacks by black bears in North America in the last 100 years.

Here&#039;s another from the Cooperative Extension of the University of Washington - http://ext.nrs.wsu.edu/publications/Blackbears1.htm - that states that 45 recorded deaths have resulted in North America since 1900. That was written in 2002.

You can visit any of the pro bear websites and those of animal rights organizations and read how your chances are greater to get killed by a bee sting that by a black bear. 

Once anyone spends time on any and all of these sites, it becomes very clear that the information on these websites should be updated as things have changed and people need to be told that those odds, whatever they are, have increased and probably will continue to increase so long as states keep banning hunting and trapping of bears.

This is the whole point of my articles. It&#039;s time to change the talking points about bear attacks.

Sorry, Richard for missing the links to some of the sources where I got my info. I&#039;m glad someone is keeping an eye on me! Ha Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was my intention to provide some links to the data that I had compiled to show I didn&#8217;t just pull it out my&#8230;.ear. This link, <a href="http://www.southeasternoutdoors.com/wildlife/mammals/black-bear-attacks-fatal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.southeasternoutdoors.com/wildlife/mammals/black-bear-attacks-fatal.html</a><br />
says there have been 52 known fatal attacks by black bears in North America in the last 100 years.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another from the Cooperative Extension of the University of Washington &#8211; <a href="http://ext.nrs.wsu.edu/publications/Blackbears1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ext.nrs.wsu.edu/publications/Blackbears1.htm</a> &#8211; that states that 45 recorded deaths have resulted in North America since 1900. That was written in 2002.</p>
<p>You can visit any of the pro bear websites and those of animal rights organizations and read how your chances are greater to get killed by a bee sting that by a black bear. </p>
<p>Once anyone spends time on any and all of these sites, it becomes very clear that the information on these websites should be updated as things have changed and people need to be told that those odds, whatever they are, have increased and probably will continue to increase so long as states keep banning hunting and trapping of bears.</p>
<p>This is the whole point of my articles. It&#8217;s time to change the talking points about bear attacks.</p>
<p>Sorry, Richard for missing the links to some of the sources where I got my info. I&#8217;m glad someone is keeping an eye on me! Ha Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Paradis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Paradis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, another great article.  

Did you not have an online source for your bear attack statistics or did you inadvertently leave them out?

It would be helpful to see what we are talking about here.

Is anyone planning to get the source of Randy Cross&#039;s numbers - big difference between his numbers and yours. Holyoke should have questioned him and Randy should have offered them up regardless of whether it was requested.

Incidentally, I grew up in western Maine 6 decades ago.  Spent lots of time outdoors and it was rare to see bear sign and even more unlikely to see a bear away from the local dump.  Now my wife and I - both retired - frequently roam, hunt and hike Somerset and northern Oxford Counties and it is now rare to not see seasonally fresh sign.  Enough sign so I always carry a loaded .44 mag revolver.  Never thought it would come to that.

Hopefully - probably I will never have to use it, but... my wife always asks if I have my gun before we leave the truck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, another great article.  </p>
<p>Did you not have an online source for your bear attack statistics or did you inadvertently leave them out?</p>
<p>It would be helpful to see what we are talking about here.</p>
<p>Is anyone planning to get the source of Randy Cross&#8217;s numbers &#8211; big difference between his numbers and yours. Holyoke should have questioned him and Randy should have offered them up regardless of whether it was requested.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I grew up in western Maine 6 decades ago.  Spent lots of time outdoors and it was rare to see bear sign and even more unlikely to see a bear away from the local dump.  Now my wife and I &#8211; both retired &#8211; frequently roam, hunt and hike Somerset and northern Oxford Counties and it is now rare to not see seasonally fresh sign.  Enough sign so I always carry a loaded .44 mag revolver.  Never thought it would come to that.</p>
<p>Hopefully &#8211; probably I will never have to use it, but&#8230; my wife always asks if I have my gun before we leave the truck.</p>
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