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	<title>Comments on: When Do Wolves Become Dangerous To Humans?</title>
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		<title>By: Coyote Attacks Happening Frequently All Over Massachusetts : Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coyote Attacks Happening Frequently All Over Massachusetts : Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is a certain degree of truth to this statement but falls short in telling the whole story. Dr. Valerius Geist, professor emeritus at the University of Alberta and world recognized wildlife expert, has studied and written extensively about wolves and coyotes. He presents his seven stages in which these wild canines can become a danger to humans. Please take the time to read that information found here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is a certain degree of truth to this statement but falls short in telling the whole story. Dr. Valerius Geist, professor emeritus at the University of Alberta and world recognized wildlife expert, has studied and written extensively about wolves and coyotes. He presents his seven stages in which these wild canines can become a danger to humans. Please take the time to read that information found here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now, we have another death cause by wolves in the very same manner, see:
Autopsy Pretty Much Rules Out Candice Berner&#039;s Death Anything But Wolves
http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2010/03/12/autopsy-pretty-much-rules-out-candice-berners-death-anyt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now, we have another death cause by wolves in the very same manner, see:<br />
Autopsy Pretty Much Rules Out Candice Berner&#8217;s Death Anything But Wolves<br />
<a href="http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2010/03/12/autopsy-pretty-much-rules-out-candice-berners-death-anyt" rel="nofollow">http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2010/03/12/autopsy-pretty-much-rules-out-candice-berners-death-anyt</a></p>
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		<title>By: A.L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: Frostfoxen &quot;That pressure is now off the animals, they’re not being hunted by humans [persecuted in enviro-speak], so they have no reason to run from us. Animals individually and collectively discover that, hey, humans aren’t attacking any more and get cosy with this idea, and start taking moves that initially was risky to survival, discover there’s no risk any more, and try something else that could be deemed riskier.&quot;

Good point. Could we see attacks by wolves and coywolves on lone pedestrians walking down deserted streets in metro areas at 2 A.M. in fifty years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: Frostfoxen &#8220;That pressure is now off the animals, they’re not being hunted by humans [persecuted in enviro-speak], so they have no reason to run from us. Animals individually and collectively discover that, hey, humans aren’t attacking any more and get cosy with this idea, and start taking moves that initially was risky to survival, discover there’s no risk any more, and try something else that could be deemed riskier.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point. Could we see attacks by wolves and coywolves on lone pedestrians walking down deserted streets in metro areas at 2 A.M. in fifty years?</p>
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		<title>By: SR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting, recently found fact; http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/science/06wolves.html

Black wolves (such as those frequently found in YNP) are descended from dogs brought from Asia by the first Americans. It would seem that, as in Arizona, the ESA has been protecting hybrids all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting, recently found fact; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/science/06wolves.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/science/06wolves.html</a></p>
<p>Black wolves (such as those frequently found in YNP) are descended from dogs brought from Asia by the first Americans. It would seem that, as in Arizona, the ESA has been protecting hybrids all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon --- this time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon --- this time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit of very important information I think everyone should know in addition to this.  

If you kill one that is looking to make your yard its new territory, the chances are the others in the pack that did not see him go down will be right back.  A dead wolf is just another dead animal to them-- HOWEVER  if you wound one with, say, a .38 snubby cause that is what you had to shoot through the screen with at the end of the couch, the wounded one (that I am sure will eventually die) will be a warning to the rest of them that you will never see again, or at least I haven&#039;t for a couple of years.  

Shooting to kill did not work.  They will be back very soon if you do.  Wounding one gives them all an education in who is at the top of the food chain.  I told this to everyone I know locally and it is holding very true.  Keep it in mind if they decide to get up close and personal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit of very important information I think everyone should know in addition to this.  </p>
<p>If you kill one that is looking to make your yard its new territory, the chances are the others in the pack that did not see him go down will be right back.  A dead wolf is just another dead animal to them&#8211; HOWEVER  if you wound one with, say, a .38 snubby cause that is what you had to shoot through the screen with at the end of the couch, the wounded one (that I am sure will eventually die) will be a warning to the rest of them that you will never see again, or at least I haven&#8217;t for a couple of years.  </p>
<p>Shooting to kill did not work.  They will be back very soon if you do.  Wounding one gives them all an education in who is at the top of the food chain.  I told this to everyone I know locally and it is holding very true.  Keep it in mind if they decide to get up close and personal.</p>
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		<title>By: Frostfoxen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frostfoxen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What is not explicitly pointed out in this article but Dr. Geist touches on briefly is that the basic steps he lays out can be said of most predators. He talks of coyotes much the same way as wolves.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s exactly what I was thinking while reading the steps, and cougars were the animal that came to mind.

This&#039;ll sound idealist, but if we want wolves to stay away from people they need to learn to fear and respect people.

We&#039;re told that wolves fear people, are too afraid to go near us. But what happens when we stop killing them on sight but instead leave them be?

That pressure is now off the animals, they&#039;re not being hunted by humans [persecuted in enviro-speak], so they have no reason to run from us. Animals individually and collectively discover that, hey, humans aren&#039;t attacking any more and get cosy with this idea, and start taking moves that initially was risky to survival, discover there&#039;s no risk any more, and try something else that could be deemed riskier.

And. We let them. Like we do with cougars and now we&#039;ve got them [cougars] in the backyard. With people complaining and interactions are mentioned as increasing [like we&#039;ve heard, at least half if not more than half of all the cougar attacks are recent].

Wolves were not a threat when they were afraid of us, and maybe we could start teaching them that, you come too close, unpleasant things happen [wildlife biologists can decide what&#039;s unpleasant enough for a wolf to convince it to stay away], and maybe you&#039;d be better off to keep your distance?

If they learned to think we weren&#039;t threatening they can learn to keep their distance too.

[I live in Ontarioâ€”far away from cougars, and maybe wolves and bears, but still...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What is not explicitly pointed out in this article but Dr. Geist touches on briefly is that the basic steps he lays out can be said of most predators. He talks of coyotes much the same way as wolves.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what I was thinking while reading the steps, and cougars were the animal that came to mind.</p>
<p>This&#8217;ll sound idealist, but if we want wolves to stay away from people they need to learn to fear and respect people.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re told that wolves fear people, are too afraid to go near us. But what happens when we stop killing them on sight but instead leave them be?</p>
<p>That pressure is now off the animals, they&#8217;re not being hunted by humans [persecuted in enviro-speak], so they have no reason to run from us. Animals individually and collectively discover that, hey, humans aren&#8217;t attacking any more and get cosy with this idea, and start taking moves that initially was risky to survival, discover there&#8217;s no risk any more, and try something else that could be deemed riskier.</p>
<p>And. We let them. Like we do with cougars and now we&#8217;ve got them [cougars] in the backyard. With people complaining and interactions are mentioned as increasing [like we've heard, at least half if not more than half of all the cougar attacks are recent].</p>
<p>Wolves were not a threat when they were afraid of us, and maybe we could start teaching them that, you come too close, unpleasant things happen [wildlife biologists can decide what's unpleasant enough for a wolf to convince it to stay away], and maybe you&#8217;d be better off to keep your distance?</p>
<p>If they learned to think we weren&#8217;t threatening they can learn to keep their distance too.</p>
<p>[I live in Ontarioâ€”far away from cougars, and maybe wolves and bears, but still...] </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is not explicitly pointed out in this article but Dr. Geist touches on briefly is that the basic steps he lays out can be said of most predators. He talks of coyotes much the same way as wolves.

I have to believe that each large predator we know of employs the same basic tactics and to the depth of their utilization is probably determined by the size of their brain.

In the article where it talks of the wolf being on people&#039;s decks (verandas), I recall several stories and photos showing mountain lions and bears on people&#039;s decks looking in the windows, etc.

I guess now I&#039;ll think a bit differently when I see or hear about such activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is not explicitly pointed out in this article but Dr. Geist touches on briefly is that the basic steps he lays out can be said of most predators. He talks of coyotes much the same way as wolves.</p>
<p>I have to believe that each large predator we know of employs the same basic tactics and to the depth of their utilization is probably determined by the size of their brain.</p>
<p>In the article where it talks of the wolf being on people&#8217;s decks (verandas), I recall several stories and photos showing mountain lions and bears on people&#8217;s decks looking in the windows, etc.</p>
<p>I guess now I&#8217;ll think a bit differently when I see or hear about such activities.</p>
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		<title>By: GLewie</title>
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		<dc:creator>GLewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what I know about the wolf could be said in a short instant.

but I find it very hard to beleve that we are populated with so many people that know about as much as I do about the wolf.

they have this fantasy in there head 

how could the wolf be that bad 

but they dont have any personality the are just  programed to servive and if you happen to become a part those thoughts it wont matter what your thoughts are you just might become the next pray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I know about the wolf could be said in a short instant.</p>
<p>but I find it very hard to beleve that we are populated with so many people that know about as much as I do about the wolf.</p>
<p>they have this fantasy in there head </p>
<p>how could the wolf be that bad </p>
<p>but they dont have any personality the are just  programed to servive and if you happen to become a part those thoughts it wont matter what your thoughts are you just might become the next pray.</p>
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		<title>By: rawdawgbuffalo</title>
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		<dc:creator>rawdawgbuffalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i under stand read this   http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/ode-to-miss-anne.html&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/ode-to-miss-anne.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ode 2 miss anne&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i under stand read this   <a href="http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/ode-to-miss-anne.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/ode-to-miss-anne.html</a><a href="http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/ode-to-miss-anne.html" rel="nofollow">ode 2 miss anne</a></p>
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