Gun Sales On Rise In FL On Fear Of An Obama Presidency

It looks like Nation Wide those sales have increased 8-10% for guns and ammunition. Church attendance is at an all time high as well. At least one side of the divided Nation gets it, what time it appears to be.

I still believe the Fly Boy gets the nod myself, all though Liberal McCain can not be trusted to protect the right to defend. Let alone the Bill Of Rights Day December 15, 1791.

November 4th 2008 could be remembered as Equal Share of Cabbage day. Obamination Day. Communism finally came forth from the closet day.

I have heard others say too that they think that with McCain there is hope that if we work on him, he will come around and move away from some of his extremely liberal views on certain issues.

Funny what gets people motivated. I’ve done the same thing.
Bought a new hand-gun. Love it. And ammo. Would like to
purchase an automatic soon and get to church on time.

I’m kidding about getting to church. I’m always late.

http://gunlaws.com We certainly have enough gun laws and then some. http://jpfo.org We sure do have enough stupid people who want more gun laws too. 176,000,000 million government subjects in two century’s exterminated can’t be wrong. never give up them guns. http://www.gunfacts.info Lets not Bea duped nor shy of that ugly truth. Because people run when the truth takes off her clothes, not this Kid.

How exactly will having guns (even a small stockpile) protect you in the case of a tyranny attack of the U.S. govt. when the U.S. military is so well armed? Individuals couldn’t hope to beat the U.S. military.

I think a lot of men who don’t even hunt just want guns “because they can” have them and it gives them a sense of power — even though in reality, it usually doesn’t.

There are a few exceptions — a guy on a bus was being attacked and robbed by thugs and he shot them and paralyzed one.

Incidents where people actually USE their guns to successfully protect themselves are the EXCEPTION, not the norm.

So I guess I’m an “extremist” because I believe in controlling weapons and I like wolves.

Extremists are those who believe in having NO gun laws whatsoever, similar to the NRA, who fight every piece of legislation including laws that involve children handling weapons.

They will not protect from military. Only criminals. The U.S. Military will not be used to confiscate guns, it will be United Nations Chinese and Russian “Peace keeping troops” if at all. Unless of course the sheople of this nation just turn them in as has been the case in history in other nations. As far as power from owning a gun ? Some fools perhaps think that, I might even know a couple idiots like that actually. It is a right, an ancient right of self preservation. And I beg to differ on your reply of self defense being the EXCEPTION due to the media suppression of people who have successfully warded off criminals in violent confrontations in this nation. Just because you have not read about them does not mean your correct. I will not post those stats, you will just ignore them anyhow and keep driveling on and on about nothing like you keep doing.

Guns to men are like shoes to women! Just Gotta have em! What’s a well dressed hunter without the matching gun??

OK post the stats from a credible source. I’m waiting with bated breath…….

So you think the U.N. is going to “invade” the U.S. and confiscate all the guns? The U.S. does not report to the U.N., and although there are some who may wish it to (not me) it hasn’t happened and it will never happen. So you are worrying about far fetched scenarios in your paranoia… most people I know are worried about paying their mortgages, not government anarchy.

The real worry, do you want to know, Greg, is our economy. It’s the economy, stupid. We cannot be a military superpower or superpower in any way without a growing economy. China will surpass us economically because we have let it happen.

We have a bunch of dummies graduating from college who do not know where Alaska is.

But you know, I’m just an extremist who likes wolves (and common sense gun laws.)

Funny George.

Bea, you might try the NRA website and read “The armed citizen”…if it’s there, hell, all I know is every month under the “the armed citizen” in the NRA magazines, there are 5-10 accounts of armed citizens repelling attacks from the bad guys and I imagine that is only a small part of what happens…In real life much of that would go unreported…

The U.S. does report to the U.N. as all Nations on that council do Report to the U.N. Whether or not we get U.N troops keeping the peace in the United States remains to be seen, as you said yourself, some people want this to happen, true, those people are at the U.N.,This event is in the planning stages and beyond, We are implementing U.N. Charters which are being used by the Forest Service, Fish and Wildlife Service, the Department of Interior and emplementing the ESA as well. Agenda 21 is very real and very in America.

Research is hard work, has nothing to do with paranoia. I have nothing to be paranoid of. I am the one reading government documents, treatises, Congressional Globes, Annals and Records of Congress, digging deeper into politics and looking deeper into the rabbit hole, while you are standing around on the surface calling out your perspectives, and disagreeing with those who have done the work. The Bible says seek and you shall find, I did.

Lets say this economy continues to fall, more banks go down, the market falls to 4K or lower, the money/currency collapses, the grocery stores are empty, soldiers are guarding the gas stations, people are rioting in the streets, you think the U.N. will not be called in, in this scenario, HA, you got a lot to learn. You better hope this never happens to America.

If those college stooges in D.C. and Congress don’t stop stealing every thing they can get their hands on it will happen.

I know where Alaska is. And I know where Kerizawa is.
Zokko suru Kenka !!

Arigato !

backwards everything does Nations United The…..

You believe to begining I’m.

Around turn ever will it think you do?

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Do you realize that if you made all the guns in the U. S. vanish, New Mexico, Texas, and California would vanish the same day?

The Mexicans would just come and get them.

(It’s much easier to invade the US from Mexico than the other way around, because the US has paved roads.)

Now many gun control fans are saying, “Don’t be silly. The U. S. Army would still have its guns. We’re not talking about making those guns vanish.”

But what if the US government doesn’t want to rescue you? They may want to trade Southwestern “land for peace,” or make “reparations” to the Mexicans. They may even want to do “land reform.”

The government’s policy today tends to prevent Americans from defending themselves, and the government will always fail to defend you.

It will even prosecute you if you defend yourself, as in the Goetz case and countless others less famous.

There’s a movement to arm pilots, and even to allow ordinary Americans to carry guns on planes, but the average liberal panics at the thought.

In a recent column , John O’Sullivan argues persuasively that the precautions worked very well, limiting the Arabs to boxcutters rather than pistols and hand grenades.

He ‘s got a point. But the search at the airplane gates still adds up to one thing; 300 disarmed passengers vs. 6 armed hijackers. The government made sure of the first part, and failed on the second part, nor did they provide an armed guard to prevent hijacking.

New York, the site of the 9/11 attacks, has the worst “victim disarmament” laws in the country. You could start firing a pistol into any large group of New Yorkers and be fairly sure none of them could fire back.

In an earlier attack in 1997, a Palestinian named Ali Hassan Abu Kamal did just that. He opened fire on the top deck of the Empire State Building.

In New York City, Amadou Diallo was shot by police on the mistaken belief that he was pointing a gun at them.

They were looking for a specific criminal who was armed with an automatic pistol and a submachine-gun, and who had committed 51 rapes.

Two months after the mistaken shooting of Diallo, they caught this man, to absolutely no publicity

NYPD has programs to make sure all the women in New York are unarmed. Every rape is the fault of the NYPD.

I wrote earlier that it would be stupid to disarm the populace during an invasion. It’s even dumber to do so during a war.

So when the Administration proposes a new anti-terrorist bill, instead of including new and better ways to control Americans’ access to firearms, perhaps they should try the reverse, and write legislation overriding New York’s Sullivan law, and the thousands of mini-Sullivans around the country, and require the state and city governments to let people defend themselves.

So we should just arm the entire friggin’ country then huh? Kinda like the Wild West?

You been livin in the Wild West, did you see any shoot outs in the streets yet ? Are madd and crazed gun owners running around your house whooping it up and shooting your car tires ? CAN YOU WALK TO YOUR VEHICLE AND GO TO THE GROCERY FOR SUGAR AND MILK and nobody made you dance a tune to bang bang bang ? The west and the east has 200 million legal gun owners, going to the store for milk and eggs right besides you!! Who knows BEATRICAL—might be a gun under the coat ofthat lady buying buying perfume next to you. GET A LIFE.

Anata ga kuchi yakamashii hakuchi baka aruki mawra shippi roba fukestu na myo na. Anata ga susru ! Anata ga henken ko no mi !

Anata ga shujin !!!

Arigato !

Liberal Socialist Communist Red Diaper Anti-gunners should all put signs on their places of residence in big bold letters that say, “THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE AND WE ARE PROUD TO LIVE IN A GUN FREE HOME.” Put it in english, spanish, arabic, kenyan, polish, russian, french, peruvian, vietnamese. That way every body can understand it, and you can feel proud to live in a gun free environment. Make sure every one in the home understands what 911 means and where the phone is, as the sign will direct thugs, crooks, rapist, robbers, serial killers and other malcontents to your residence, since it is scary for them to just bust in any occupied residence at the moment due to not knowing whether it be my shack or yours, KAPISH !!! Good luck.

If there is one thing liberals love more than banning Christianity from public schools it is creating ineffective gun control laws. Despite centuries of evidence that gun control laws do not lower crime, stop violence, or make society safer in any way, liberals keep plugging away at our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

I am not going to weary you with a regurgitation of all the well known statistics showing how strict gun control laws are followed by sharp spikes in violent crime rates or with arguments asking the left to explain its intellectual consistency behind their view that the only remedy to a failed gun control law is the creation of another gun control law just like it.

The real question in the gun control debate is not the statistics or the nuances of the law but why in the first place liberals are so preoccupied with making it harder for law abiding citizens to carry a gun.

Gun control laws are as old as America, stretching far back into the early Colonial period. As far as the United States as a political entity is concerned, the first gun control law came less than one year after the ratification of the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights with the “Uniform Militia Act of 1792.”

In the Act, every “able bodied white male citizen” between the ages of 18 and 45 was to be enrolled in the state militia and was required to “provide himself with a musket or firelock, a bayonet, and ammunition.”

In early America, it was not a question of “if” you had the right to bear arms, but whether or not you would be “required” to own a gun. This Act is significant for two reasons. First it shows the intent of the Framers was that every citizen was considered part of the militia, therefore, no citizen could have their right to bear arms curtailed by the government. Second, with the Act designating “white males” as citizens and part of the militia, it effectively deigned slaves and even free African-Americans their newly declared Constitutional rights.

It is quite obvious that there were many in early America who did not want slaves, or those sympathizing with their suffering, from having access to guns.

Why? Well, it is pretty simple. If slaves had guns, then they would not have been slaves for much longer. Firearms would be used by slaves as a tool to overthrow their oppressors just as the American Colonists had done against the British and demand their full rights and dignity as citizens.

The “Uniform Militia Act of 1792″ opened a door that was used by many states to pass follow up legislation that made it illegal not just for African-Americans to carry or own a gun, but to even use one unless under orders from their “master.” From its inception, gun control was a vehicle to deny basic rights, prevent self defense, and oppress citizens.

Gun control laws still disproportionately regulate the African-American community, but now our benign liberal leaders want to spread the oppression about a bit more fairly.

But the goal is the same. Gun control does nothing but oppress a population, deny them basic rights, make them subservient to the government, and prevent them from changing their collective conditions at the time of their choosing, rather than at the sanction of the State.

Liberals do not want you making your own decisions anymore than they did the slaves. That is their job. How can they possibly restructure society so a Republican is never elected President again if people are running around not doing what they are told?

Liberals love gun control for the simple fact that it directly impacts the most independent, self reliant, and free thinking of us as demonstrated by our refusal to proxy our personal protection out to an unaccountable government.

The goal of gun control is not to actually control guns and make the world a safer place, but to control people. It is not as important for you can pass a criminal background check so much as it is that you feel obligated to ask the state for permission to buy a gun.

Liberals know gun control laws will not stop criminals, but it will erode the sense of independence and self reliance of regular people until they feel that they can do nothing that does not meet government approval.

Gun owners choose to protect themselves, thank you very much.

They do not need government protection anymore than any of the other ill conceived plans of the left.

And that is why the liberals want to control our guns. It is the only means they have to directly control the lives of those who would otherwise go on ignoring them.

At least when right-wingers rant there’s a point.

And a bag of chips! Thanks, George

Isn’t it kind of funy how many of the hollywood bunch Rosie Odonell for example are for strict gun control but they don’t seem to mind the fact that their body guards are packin. I guess it’s alright as long as they have their protection but to hell with everone else. My guns are my guns and unless I want to get rid of them nothing will change that. Laws or no laws they stay with me. From my cold dead hands!!!!!

Be sure to vote for Obama if the following is what you Desire!

Swift amnesty for 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens and a drive to make them citizens and register them, as in the Bill Clinton years. This will mean that Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona will soon move out of reach for GOP presidential candidates, as has California.

– Border security will go on the backburner, and America will have a virtual open border with a Mexico of 110 million.

– Taxes will be raised on the top 5 percent of wage-earners, who now carry 60 percent of the U.S. income tax burden, and tens of millions of checks will be sent out to the 40 percent of wage-earners who pay no federal income tax. Like the man said, redistribute the wealth, spread it around.

– Social Security taxes will be raised on the most successful among us, and capital gains taxes will be raised from 15 percent to 20 percent. The Bush tax cuts will be repealed, and death taxes reimposed.

– Two or three more liberal activists of the Ruth Bader Ginsberg-John Paul Stevens stripe will be named to the Supreme Court. U.S. district and appellate courts will be stacked with “progressives.”

– Special protections for homosexuals will be written into all civil rights laws, and gays and lesbians in the military will be invited to come out of the closet. “Don’t ask, don’t tell” will be dead.

– The homosexual marriages that state judges have forced California, Massachusetts and Connecticut to recognize, an Obama Congress or Obama court will require all 50 states to recognize.

– A “Freedom of Choice Act” nullifying all state restrictions on abortions will be enacted. America will become the most pro-abortion nation on earth.

– Affirmative action — hiring and promotions based on race, sex and sexual orientation until specified quotas are reached — will be rigorously enforced throughout the U.S. government and private sector.

– Universal health insurance will be enacted, covering legal and illegal immigrants, providing another powerful magnet for the world to come to America, if necessary by breaching her borders.

– A federal bailout of states and municipalities to keep state and local governments spending up could come in December or early next year.

– The first trillion-dollar deficit will be run in the first year of an Obama presidency. It will be the first of many.

Welcome to Obamaland!

Another Group of Entitled Persons on Obamas Favorites List:

Illegal Aliens, We can Expect!

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc.

For me, I’ll pay more for tomatoes.

Americans, we need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won’t have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will
voluntarily leave and return?

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about ‘ political correctness’ that we don’t have the will to do
anything about it.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn’t that what the whole
immigration issue is about?

Business doesn’t want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don’t want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don’t want the jobs.

But the bottom line is CHEAP LABOR. The phrase ‘cheap labor’ is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as ‘cheap labor.’

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children.
He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an ‘earned income credit’ of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.
All of this is at (our) taxpayer’s expense.

He doesn’t worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs,
bulletins, and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of
$20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans
are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left
after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased
crime, graffiti, and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. ‘AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON’T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!’

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY
AS POSSIBLE, OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN
BECAUSE A FEW DON’T CARE.

President-elect Barack Obama pivoted quickly to begin filling out his new administration yesterday, selecting hard-charging Illinois Rep. Rahm Emanuel as White House chief of staff and announcing a transition team.

Several Democrats described a sprawling operation well under way and stocked with longtime associates of Obama, as well as veterans of the Clinton White House.

Known for his bluntness as well as his single-minded determination, Emanuel was a political and policy aide in Bill Clinton’s White House. He won a Chicago-area House seat six years ago and as chairman of the Democratic campaign committee in 2006, he played an instrumental role in restoring his party to power after 12 years in the minority.

This is arguably the most important position in the White House, other than the President himself. The chief of staff sets the ideological tone of the White House. And what does Obama’s selection of Emanuel indicate that tone be on the issue of gun rights?

Like Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden, Illinois Rep. Rahm Emanuel has established a solid anti-gun record, having voted against a law prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers and against prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse, and voiced support for mandating “smart gun” technology.

While Obama ran as the “change” candidate, Obama’s choices point to a “change” back to the 1990′s. The story goes on to note that John Podesta, Bill Clinton`s former White House chief of staff, is heading the Obama transition team. Gun owners will remember Podesta well for his work as President Clinton’s point man on gun control, coordinating federal lawsuits against the firearm industry and Clinton`s failed effort to mandate universal firearm-owner licensing.

More recently (as the NRA reported in America’s First Freedom magazine), Podesta has acted as a “linchpin in a murky network of radical left-wing political organizations–outgrowths of world citizen George Soros` petulant 2003 effort in which he pitted his personal fortune against American voters in an unsuccessful effort to oust George W. Bush as president and install Sen. John Kerry.”

For a guy who claimed during the campaign that he won’t come after your guns, he sure is acting quickly to build up the “F-Troop”.

Homepage / Connecticut News

Video: Citizens Attribute Election To Rise In Gun Sales

Gun Sales Up 50 Percent In Conn.

Customers Cite New Administration As Reason

[NEWSVINE: Gun Sales Up 50 Percent In Conn.]

The surge in gun sales sprawling across the country started in Connecticut a couple of weeks ago.

One store owner said people are buying guns now while they can.

Many customers said they’re stocking up on guns because they think the new administration will move quickly to restrict sales.

They said Democrats now control all three branches of the government and they feel the Democrats don’t want the average American to have the right to defend themselves with guns.

Records show that gun stores across the country are experiencing a large increase in sales. In Colorado, records indicate a one-day record was set Nov. 1 for the highest number of background checks in a 24-hour period.

Connecticut stores have seen a similar spike, store owners said. They said the increase is about 50 percent.

Some purchasing guns said President-elect Barack Obama said that in times of adversity, Americans cling to their guns and religion. Others said they have researched Obama’s and Vice President-elect Joe Biden’s record on gun control on the Internet and don’t like what they see.

This is why guns are so important in the hands of law abiding civilian populance’s BEATRICAL.
http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/blogger.html
Try to to get that thru your THICK SKULL BEATRICAL. HA

If we want cheap labor there’s a lot of prisons out there. I remember when I was a kid in western Colorado the prisoners were out in the fields hoeing the crops. We need to do what that sherriff down south is doing, can’t remember his name but I think he’s on track. They make a little money for when they get out and actually suppliy alot of there own meals from what they raise. Bring back the chain gangs.

Gun Sales Boom: MI IL TN MT NV MO SD KY CO

Gun sales rise in fear Obama will curb right to bear arms
by Shandra Martinez | The Grand Rapids Press
Monday November 10, 2008, 7:11 AM

GRAND RAPIDS — The scene Saturday was a retailer’s dream: Wall-to-wall customers, skyrocketing sales. But the approaching holiday season didn’t spark this rush. Barack Obama did.

His election triggered concerns by gun enthusiasts that his administration would push restrictions on firearms. Gun stores across the country noted increased business.

Gun sales spike after election

Posted: Nov 9, 2008 09:16 PM

Updated: Nov 10, 2008 07:02 AM
Gun sales spike after election
Local & Regional News
by Kia Carter

CARBON CLIFF, Illinois — There’s a post election rush to buy firearms and ammunition. President-Elect Barack Obama may want to stop the manufacture of several semi-automatic weapons and that’s triggered a nationwide run on guns and ammunition.

Business is budding at Carbon Cliff Bait & Tackle, a store that’s sold guns and ammo for 50 years.

“Yes for now business is good. How long it’ll last, we don’t know,” says Margaret Pankey, Carbon Cliff Bait & Tackle owner.

Margaret Pankey says the recent boom in gun and ammo sales stems from fear. The election of Barack Obama has many gun owners wondering if prices or their rights could change.

“Just before the election it started picking up and since the election it has been really busy,” says Pankey.

You get the picture, there are allot of people in this country who won’t be pushed around for too long. Don’t you just love it? a well armed population!

Sheriff Joe is at it again:

http://www.texasinsider.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1580

Thats funny, people fear that their “Rights will Change” under Obama…Rights never change…Tyrants Lien them illegaly or out right suppress them via FORCE using lies/tricks/deceptions/smoke and mirrors. Man did not create rights but he can dupe people into willful ignorance, and enslave them. See History, all you need do is research the last two hundred thirty two years of this Nation, here is a clue, start at 1868 and work forward, pay close attention to the year 1968, and the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968-Then step over into 1938 and peak at the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938, Oh gee then place them side by side, WOW, they match word for word. Hey thanks Senator DODD. Obama and his gang using their Satanic House and Senate will do some big time damage to the entire Constitution, whats left of it, and the Bill Of Rights, whats left of that. The Biggest thing that is damaged on a National level is the minds of the people. History repeats itself over and over again, and here we go again.

I want to buy a gun so I can shoot people in church.

Oh wait… I got it backward.

Somebody shoot me. You all have guns so it should be no problem.

It’s the government gun you should be worried over, not mine. Idiot.

That’s the trouble today, these people have no self respect and they want to die, so they ask for suicide or to be shot, because they have no God, no reason for living, other than their own self debasement…so they want is to either make sure we feel the same way, or just commit suicide….they could change it all, if they just asked Him.

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined.

Patrick Henry.

It certainly is encouraging to see the lies keep coming. The respect this man has for the 2nd Amendment shows up in
your job application.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=39345

That’s great isn’t it?

The most crazed religious fanatic argues in more calm and reasoned tones than liberals responding to statistics on concealed-carry permits.

Looks like Bea is not responding anymore too bad. I have something to say to her. I have had my training and earned my gun permit. If, I said “if” Bea was in my hometown the “Law” would be 20 min away at least. So, Bea is at the store when a Meth Head comes in puts a gun to her head and screams I am going to kill her. Bea, I would do everything in my gun toting, God Loving heart to keep him from killing you including in taking his life so an innocent person can live. That is what the gun issue is. The Law can not be everywhere, criminals will get guns no matter what and even if we are terrified out of our minds and I would be we must gather the courage to do sometehing about it.

Well, careful what you wish for Dr. Phil, it could come back
and bite you………..

Congrats on the gun permit. I bet you have some interesting
thoughts on what it is like to have a gun in your hand. Were
you ready for them? It is an incredible responsibility.
Good luck.

So a continuing and steady stream of guns continuing in is the answer to that? And ANY laws to “control gun ownership” are bad laws? I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t want someone with certain mental conditions to be able to legally own a gun!

That sounds like the doctors who tell people, “take this medication to get rid of that side effect.”

You just contradicted yourself again BEATRICAL. We will not trust a MEDICAL QUACK to give us a handful of pills but another QUACK decides some one is a mental case can be trusted ?? And a government QUACK at VA hospital no doubt…

ar, Who said “wish” I am saying be ready for the worst and hope and pray for the best. The thoughts of having a gun in my hand is “you must be responsible for the action fo this weapon”, not just me but, the gun, if it should fall into say a child’s hands who would be responsible? ME! I would have to live with the consequences, the criminal as well as emotional however, I am a very responsible person. I don’t have any idea what Bea or should I say “baa” is rambling about. No, Baa not all gun laws are bad I abide by all gun laws. I shoot card board targets and all of those guys who shoot with me are law abiding and all of us hope and pray we never have to shoot at anything other than card board. We shoot like others may may shoot hoops or play video games it is all in fun. Every now and then we have a fun shoot and take up money for local charties including Thanksgiving meals for some of the poor. (We sound like a rough bunch) The mental conditions you are talking about are true except it has nothing to do with gun control it is patient privacy I wouldn’t want them behind the wheel of a car either. I would be fine for all Medical Records made public what about you “baa”? I know it is so hard for “people like you” to believe but some guns bought are never shot. They are investments, pieces of history. I stray a little from the norm in these thoughts I think permits should be required to enter a gun show (a handgun permit has an extensive background check) a gun seller should know the medical mental history of the buyer. No matter what one does the criminals will all ways have guns. They will cross our border.

George’s Posts have the following sources:
19. gunowners.org Feb 2005 Why Liberals Love Gun Control by Justin Darr

23. Real Clear Politics October 28, 2008 Obama’s First 100 Days By Patrick Buchanan Copyright 2008, Creators Syndicate Inc.

25. First part Copyright 2008 The Associated Press, Nov 5; another part from Buckeye Firearms Association Fri, 11/07/2008 – 00:10. By Chad D. Baus

George, at least give the authors credit. That is why I use those quotes you complained about on many statements I submit.

I have fewer guns than in the past; some were stolen about 10 years ago – I gave the sheriff all the seriel numbers within a couple hours, no results. Burglers left the old clunker 22 and missed the 357 magnum, bought a new 22 for ground squirrel control, the 30-06 is with relates in Idaho – perhaps out elk hunting right now.

Speaking of elk, Idaho maximum number <120,000, Fish and game’s: “long range objective of 87,000 elk in Idaho by 1990 appears obtainable without jeopardizing habitat.”

Chinese Proverb:
‘When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others’.

Have you benefited from any of this??

Economic & Education Stimulus

President Barrack Obama hasn’t even taken office and he has already stimulated the economy and brought renewed interest in education.

Without doing anything, other then winning the election, firearm sales have increased into double digits sparking renewed interest in everything from gun shows to home safes.

In some places sales have even doubled from previous years. I believe every state has shown a marked increase in firearm safety classes and use.

Barrack Obama has provided more positive economic stimulus for the firearm industry than any president elect in recent history.