Comments on: People Think Obama Should Oppose Wolf Delisting Because Bush Supported It

By: Tom Remington

Tom Remington — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:21:46 +0000

YUP! And the door swings both ways.

By: Bob Soper

Bob Soper — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:19:16 +0000

“What will be interesting in this case is that for the first time, at least in recent memory, you’ll have supporters of the Obama election pitted against Obama’s administration.”

I got hoodwinked into supporting Obama last year, especially during the primaries when he seemed to represent an alternative to that corporatist corruption queen, Hillary Clinton.
By now we see that Obama is just another tool for the moneyed interests, and that the bundled campaign contributions he received from the Wall Street investment bankers meant a lot more to him than the umpteen-millions that regular working people donated.

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:00:35 +0000

I should mention Red Beckman of Montana has attempted for over thirty years now to bring the facts about those Amendments to the attention of the Montana State legislature with no luck..they refuse to even read the documents..

Bill Benson also has tried.. The lawyers are aware of this, they do not wish to relinquish the power of the Feds.. This is a silver bullet, but there are not enough voices yelling about this to help the cause…

We suffer the head in the sand syndrome…

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:52:35 +0000

The biggest problem is the feds blackmail program called their funds, cooperate with the feds or lose the funds, the other trouble we face as does Montana is some of those legislators themselves no matter their party will vote for the fed everytime..This game is rigged deeper than even I myself probably realize. I’ve read every state legislative 10th Amendment document across the board and all of them are doing it wrong, The 10th has been voided by the 14th Amendment and the 17th Amendment, so the 10th Amendment argument will never stand until the problems of the other Amendments is properly dealt with, I have to believe the States Legislators understand this problem, so I think this is just more distraction to satisfy a disgruntled populance per say, while we head into their POST INDUSTRIAL AGE and World Centralized Banking agenda..

Unfortunately the average joe on the street is unaware of several facts concerning the Constitutional argument. For example the Sixteenth, the Seventeenth Amendment, as well as the 14th Amendment were never ratified via the legal Constitutional process, The 14th was done via gun point while the Southern Congressmen were not allowed to vote, since the North considered them traitors, which is false, they were not traitors. The 16th Amendment was never ratified correctly and I have a copy of every ratification letter of that era from each state house proving this to be true.. The 17th also is illegal, never properly ratified via the Founders Constititutional requirements.. So since these are null and void the states could easily prove so in court and disqualify all federal powers over the states..This means the U.N. Treatise is null and void, the ESA is not worth the paper is written on, Agenda 21 is null and void, In fact none of the U.S. Senators who have been elected in the last 94-99 years have been dully elected, None of those treaties which the Senate approved in those years are legal, they have never been lawfully approved..

None of the Federal Judges, including U.S. SupremeCourt justices have been lawfully approved, None of the legislation which required both House and Senate approval has been lawfully enacted..Roe V. Wade dosen’t exist- The Salt and Panama treaties don’t exist, The CIA dosen’t exist, The Internal Revenue Code dosen’t exist, The Federal deficit is a personal debt owed by a handful of pretend legislators…

Until our state legislators are ready to tackle these facts mentioned to diqualify federal intervention in our lives and this attack on our properties and freedoms, like hunting the 10th Amendment argument they propose is for show only…I talked to Helen Chenowith about this 15 years ago, she was aware of it, she also said she was scared as hell of it…George Hansen was getting ready to out this info..Look at what they did to him..He never wrote one bad check, they lied, the media lied, Just SSS… And watch the show..

I of course can prove all this, but you must be willing to read a lot of documents…

By: Paul Dovel

Paul Dovel — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:23:27 +0000

There are ways around the ESA and it seems a large portion of the Montana Senate is using them. They are introducing a bill that uses state’s rights to manage their animals and in the bill it doesn’t recognize the ESA as having any power, in them managing their wolf population. I do not have a link, but it is SB 183 and to hell with the Fed’s unscientific approach to wildlife management. Wolves were illegally put on the ESL in the 70s because they have never been endangered. Wildlife scientists estimate that there are well over 70,000 wolves in the Northern Hemisphere. That is not endangered, even by ‘their’ standards! Hey Greg, I wonder if the Idaho legislature (mostly Republican I might add) has the nads to pass a bill that would disregard the heavy hand of the Feds off of our state? What do you think?

By: Jim Richards

Jim Richards — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:12:02 +0000

If Bush had decided to protect the Wolves would Obama supporters have wanted him to reverse that. I don’t think so.
These Wolf lovers have a infatuation with Wolves that is unatural and weird.
Greg is right about hunting each other before we hunt wolves. If that happens they will be on the endangered list.

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:54:27 +0000

We’ll be huntin one another in this nation before we hunt wolves.