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	<title>Comments on: Elk Rutting In Downtown Estes Park, Colorado</title>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2009/10/27/elk-rutting-in-downtown-estes-park-colorado/#comment-15733</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Stoner,
 I read  the Yellow Science article.  Even if global warming is occurring as some believe, I don&#039;t think that man has the will power or knowledge to change the course of events which would follow.  

I also read a car with many, about 20, bumber stickers at a Safeway parking lot today.  Most were, in my estimation, good and humerous. Some of the ones I remember are:
    I hope to become as good a person as my Lab already thinks I am.
    
    Humans are not the only animals on the planet, they just act like they are.

    The moral majority is neither.

     Stumps of mystery, an Oregon experience.

    Goddess bless America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Stoner,<br />
 I read  the Yellow Science article.  Even if global warming is occurring as some believe, I don&#8217;t think that man has the will power or knowledge to change the course of events which would follow.  </p>
<p>I also read a car with many, about 20, bumber stickers at a Safeway parking lot today.  Most were, in my estimation, good and humerous. Some of the ones I remember are:<br />
    I hope to become as good a person as my Lab already thinks I am.</p>
<p>    Humans are not the only animals on the planet, they just act like they are.</p>
<p>    The moral majority is neither.</p>
<p>     Stumps of mystery, an Oregon experience.</p>
<p>    Goddess bless America.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2009/10/27/elk-rutting-in-downtown-estes-park-colorado/#comment-15732</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yellow Science

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121433436381900681.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yellow Science</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121433436381900681.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121433436381900681.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolves had been seen in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, 1940-1990.  The wolf was naturally traveling through, a few spending the summers,  they were seen.. They were protected, even appreciated..  This natural process was hi jacked, ruined, by so called science and environmentalism by interfering and altering the natural process, they destroy everything they touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolves had been seen in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, 1940-1990.  The wolf was naturally traveling through, a few spending the summers,  they were seen.. They were protected, even appreciated..  This natural process was hi jacked, ruined, by so called science and environmentalism by interfering and altering the natural process, they destroy everything they touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2009/10/27/elk-rutting-in-downtown-estes-park-colorado/#comment-15730</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you study some of the accounts of wolves and coyotes from years ago, there are accounts that support the idea that even though wolves inhabited the northwest regions of Montana, they would not have migrated much beyond that area.&quot;

That was the closest reference I made, at least that I&#039;m aware of here, about wolves in northwestern Montana. I acknowledged the migration of wolves from Canada into the region without the assistance of man and reintroduction. So, I&#039;m not sure where you got the notion that I said wolves in northern Montana were isolated from those in Canada.

I&#039;m suggesting perhaps natural phenomena, i.e. natural boundaries, climate, geography, animal instincts, etc., created its own form of isolation and as the environmentalists like to use the term, then there was genetic diversity or connectivity throughout the ranges of each of the subspecies.

I have not attempted to define these boundaries or ranges only to suggest the once existed.

If man had decided not to introduce the Canadian gray wolf into Idaho and Yellowstone, it would be interesting to see, now some 14 years later, what would be occurring &quot;naturally&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you study some of the accounts of wolves and coyotes from years ago, there are accounts that support the idea that even though wolves inhabited the northwest regions of Montana, they would not have migrated much beyond that area.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was the closest reference I made, at least that I&#8217;m aware of here, about wolves in northwestern Montana. I acknowledged the migration of wolves from Canada into the region without the assistance of man and reintroduction. So, I&#8217;m not sure where you got the notion that I said wolves in northern Montana were isolated from those in Canada.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suggesting perhaps natural phenomena, i.e. natural boundaries, climate, geography, animal instincts, etc., created its own form of isolation and as the environmentalists like to use the term, then there was genetic diversity or connectivity throughout the ranges of each of the subspecies.</p>
<p>I have not attempted to define these boundaries or ranges only to suggest the once existed.</p>
<p>If man had decided not to introduce the Canadian gray wolf into Idaho and Yellowstone, it would be interesting to see, now some 14 years later, what would be occurring &#8220;naturally&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your no credibility, greg.   Is it from not watching tv for 25 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your no credibility, greg.   Is it from not watching tv for 25 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2009/10/27/elk-rutting-in-downtown-estes-park-colorado/#comment-15728</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Estes park just needs a  Wolf pack and then the wolves kill Three or more elk a night&quot; (not counting pregnant cows aborting because of being run and stressed.) and soon enough Estes Park won&#039;t have anymore  elk either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Estes park just needs a  Wolf pack and then the wolves kill Three or more elk a night&#8221; (not counting pregnant cows aborting because of being run and stressed.) and soon enough Estes Park won&#8217;t have anymore  elk either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And elite power freaks manipulating politics and science do ?  LMAO...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And elite power freaks manipulating politics and science do ?  LMAO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2009/10/27/elk-rutting-in-downtown-estes-park-colorado/#comment-15726</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>greg
 You have no credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greg<br />
 You have no credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2009/10/27/elk-rutting-in-downtown-estes-park-colorado/#comment-15725</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bother with that old out dated useless science, about all those subspecies of wolves, it is not credible, that&#039;s old science. The new science fits the agenda better and sounds better and makes some people feel better about a lie, oooops I mean a new version of science.   I KNOW  Those hopes and changes again.. I completely understand.. That&#039;s why the 43 year old endangered species act is old crap to..Lets toss it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bother with that old out dated useless science, about all those subspecies of wolves, it is not credible, that&#8217;s old science. The new science fits the agenda better and sounds better and makes some people feel better about a lie, oooops I mean a new version of science.   I KNOW  Those hopes and changes again.. I completely understand.. That&#8217;s why the 43 year old endangered species act is old crap to..Lets toss it..</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom
Could you give me the data that sugests that the wolves in northern Montana are isolated from those in Canada? A Smithonian article from years ago?

&quot;Theories abound and I can’t say that any have ever been proven. I’m not even suggesting that such theories are accurate. I suppose it simply raises a lot of questions, most of which nobody has the answers to.&quot;

I did not offer a theory, only information about the geogrphy of NW  Montana,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom<br />
Could you give me the data that sugests that the wolves in northern Montana are isolated from those in Canada? A Smithonian article from years ago?</p>
<p>&#8220;Theories abound and I can’t say that any have ever been proven. I’m not even suggesting that such theories are accurate. I suppose it simply raises a lot of questions, most of which nobody has the answers to.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did not offer a theory, only information about the geogrphy of NW  Montana,</p>
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