Comments on: It Was Predicted! Wolves Destroying Elk Herds In Montana Now

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:43:29 +0000

It is the winter closings, road 017 which is Willow Creek, east and north of fair field. From my experiences and observances over the years Wintering elk just watch mans activity’s. I’ve rode past bedded elk on the four wheeler, which I no longer own, and they would not move..

I snow machine past them same thing.. Of course then we have the people who want to stop, or get closer, the Twinkie Flats Crew (Twin Falls).. As far as road 017 goes there are no elk back there.. Disturbing elk is disturbing elk.. The real root of this problem is the elk can longer leave the mountain ranges and head out onto the Prairies, around the Snake River Plains and winter as they once did..

My Grandfather saw these migrations as a boy in the 1920s.. Progress forced them to stay on the mountain ranges, so I call it the fish bowl scenario, and this is my main gripe about adding this predator into the mix.. We simply can not go back in time..

Thus we have the crashing elk herds.. It is simply like anything else man touches, money, politics, conservationism, religion, they ruin it..

I like the snow machine because I can see a lot of country off highway, in those deep snows, I have a 100 mile range, so fifty out fifty back… These new modern type sleds are quieter and less smokey, in fact most are four stroke powered now, which means no oil mixed fuels.. I like the roads, especially the Bear Valley Road, Cape Horn entrance.. I’ll ride in to the Frank Church Wilderness border and snow shoe back in there to my yurt…

I have snow shoe trekked across the Sawtooth Wilderness in February twice in my life, with back pack and necessary equipment, Grandjean to Alturas Lake, high way to high way.. I’m thinking on this hard right now… Might do it this year.. Try to film it, I need to find a new set of wooden shoes, six feet in length… My partner who did these things with me is gone and replacing that has been impossible..

I sure hope the next dimension is better…

By: Lee

Lee — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:39:02 +0000

Greg, at least the wolves are a lot quieter than the snow machines while they are “running them around”. For that reason, if I were in the area of this chase, I would prefer the wolf to the machine.

I have never liked the machine – only been on one ride at my Dad’s place in Peterboro, New York in the 60s (which are slightly after the dark ages of the 50s). The noise, air polution, and snow flashing by detracted from any enjoyment there may have been from traveling over the newly fallen snow. I hope that the machine is a lot quieter and more eco friendly now than it was then.

I certainly agree that the US is in deep trouble and will probably never recover. I don’t expect my grandkids to have anywhere near the oppurtunities that were available in the past.

Which roads are they closing about which you are concerned. I thought you liked all the wilderness you could escape to in Idaho and find your great rainbow in those beautiful cirque lakes.

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:15:29 +0000

The French Revolution was a natural event as well.. The elite minded stupid asses got their heads removed… Amazing how we are almost replicating that event today, remove modern day techno gear and it is identical… Close a few more roads, ban a few more freedoms, ruin the money, take away the work, make people live in the ditches… BOOM, the powder keg blows…

By: Tom Remington

Tom Remington — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:08:09 +0000

YEAH, BUT Greg! Being chased by wolves is “natural”.

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:01:21 +0000

According to Regan Berkley, wildlife biologist for the Idaho Department of Fish and Game, motorized travel near winter-stressed elk could be detrimental to their survival, as it forces elk to expend energy reserves to seek security. This energy is desperately needed for survival. Repeated disturbance can result in death of the animals if these reserves are exhausted. Young animals and those in poor condition are most likely to be affected by these disturbances. —Idaho Mountain Express December 3 2009… Winter Forest Closure article..

But wolves running them around don’t bother them at all… I just love those contradictions..

By: Jay-M

Jay-M — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:39:11 +0000

The elk in southwestern montana are suffering, the whitetails in northwestern montana are suffering in the same way, poor fawn-calf recruitment. Fish and game still have no backbone to do whats right they cave to the hug a wolf crowd and claim in the climate of global warming the harsh winters are the cause.

By: ar

ar — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:33:29 +0000

Don’t get in my way, greg. I’m right behind you……

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:09:21 +0000

You’ve convinced me to dive off a thousand foot cliff head first…

By: Jay-M

Jay-M — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:45:29 +0000

All you narrow minded people cant you see that is how the ecosystem is balanced so that grass can grow and bugs thrive so that birds fly higher,giving fox more eggs to eat and more coyotes for wolves to eliminate before they eat each other all while allowing fungus trees to thrive so beavers will can cut-em down so that silt beds form allowing worms to grow feeding fish which in turn feed the bears.But the hell with the bad human they only destroy what they use its way better for a planet of animals to exist without the human.