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	<title>Comments on: USFWS Basically Ignored Concerns About Disease From Wolves Before Reintroduction</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn Gray said:

&quot;North Lincoln Co. has been devastated.  The cattlemen are mostly gone&quot;

That is their goal. To them the cattleman are using their land. They want such devastation, along with an end to hunting. Seldom will they ever admit that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn Gray said:</p>
<p>&#8220;North Lincoln Co. has been devastated.  The cattlemen are mostly gone&#8221;</p>
<p>That is their goal. To them the cattleman are using their land. They want such devastation, along with an end to hunting. Seldom will they ever admit that.</p>
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		<title>By: ar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teilhard de Chardin. U.N. charter, originator of the New Age (environmental) Movement - Jesuit.

Richard McSorely, Jesuit, comes along and mentors Bill Clinton and starts his green peacers, earth justice hippie movement and then, enter one USFWS, rome property thru and thru by Jesuits, again.  

they are steeling it, poluting it, ruining it from non-use/management and lying about it all the way to bank.  It&#039;s time they went by the way-side.  It is way past time the foreigners went home - before their nakedness is revealed, completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teilhard de Chardin. U.N. charter, originator of the New Age (environmental) Movement &#8211; Jesuit.</p>
<p>Richard McSorely, Jesuit, comes along and mentors Bill Clinton and starts his green peacers, earth justice hippie movement and then, enter one USFWS, rome property thru and thru by Jesuits, again.  </p>
<p>they are steeling it, poluting it, ruining it from non-use/management and lying about it all the way to bank.  It&#8217;s time they went by the way-side.  It is way past time the foreigners went home &#8211; before their nakedness is revealed, completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The damage done by these Club of Rome Environmentalists from NAFTA-GATT-ESA-WATER etc. etc.. Is in the trillions.  From the Steel Industry, Logging, Free trade Agreements, so-called American companies and Corporations, for example like Microsoft, using slaves in China to make their products, those people for Gates work 16-18 hour days and get paid pennies to do it.. And then the damages to Californian Farming, Klamath Valley farmers,  the damage to the wild life by these groups is priceless...They have cost us billions in bullshit legislation and court case costs..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The damage done by these Club of Rome Environmentalists from NAFTA-GATT-ESA-WATER etc. etc.. Is in the trillions.  From the Steel Industry, Logging, Free trade Agreements, so-called American companies and Corporations, for example like Microsoft, using slaves in China to make their products, those people for Gates work 16-18 hour days and get paid pennies to do it.. And then the damages to Californian Farming, Klamath Valley farmers,  the damage to the wild life by these groups is priceless&#8230;They have cost us billions in bullshit legislation and court case costs..</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 80&#039;s when the reintroduction was starting, I attended a meeting for the area&#039;s cattlemen headed up by Ed Bangs, in North Lincoln Co., Montana.  At this meeting he stated that there had never been a documented attack on a human by a wolf.  He also told us what would happen to us if we harmed a wolf.  There would be fines and a large reward for anyone turning us in.  The government would also have the right to confiscate our ranches if we couldn&#039;t pay up.  We were forbidden to protect our livestock even if the attack were in progress.  

I was shaken by the government&#039;s audacity.  

We always had wolves in the area.  People figured they were drifting down from Canada&#039;s wilderness.  Nobody paid much attention - at least not that I heard.   There was probably a good balance that has now been destroyed by reintroduction.  North Lincoln Co. has been devastated.  The cattlemen are mostly gone, small farms have had livestock attacked and killed - and not eaten.  The game is sparse, and there is danger from wolves when hunting.  Mountain lions have become a problem because there territory and food sources have been taken over by wolves.  

On top of the wolves, the environmentalists have completely stopped all logging and shut down the mills.  Huge forest fires are the result of their &quot;no management&quot; and let mother nature alone doctrine.  At times the air is so thick with smoke that you can&#039;t see for a half mile in front of you, and there are air quality warnings.  The environmental movement threw the baby out with the bath water.  

Now we have hard financial times, with fiscal deficit etc.  I wonder if the general public - the vast majority not having a realistic clue about the land outside the urban areas - would even take into consideration the costs of the wolf reintroduction program.  I believe they are so brainwashed by educators, slick glossy magazines, etc.  that they would think any expense is justified.  Just the aircraft tracking expenses are huge.  What has the whole thing cost, and what have the financial losses to the people been?  Where were those figures published?  What will the costs of control be in the future when it finally is no longer possible to lie away the problems, and reality sets in.  I feel strongly that in order to help balance our budget, programs like wolf reintroduction need to be stopped immediately.  

Let those who truly know and understand the land they live in manage its resources.  North Lincoln Co. Montana could be the poster child for what happens when misled radical environmentalists and their highly funded organizations take over.  The impact is huge for this large area with few residents.   They have only pennies to fight the millions that have been spent by the environmental movement to take over and destroy what was a way of life for hundreds of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 80&#8242;s when the reintroduction was starting, I attended a meeting for the area&#8217;s cattlemen headed up by Ed Bangs, in North Lincoln Co., Montana.  At this meeting he stated that there had never been a documented attack on a human by a wolf.  He also told us what would happen to us if we harmed a wolf.  There would be fines and a large reward for anyone turning us in.  The government would also have the right to confiscate our ranches if we couldn&#8217;t pay up.  We were forbidden to protect our livestock even if the attack were in progress.  </p>
<p>I was shaken by the government&#8217;s audacity.  </p>
<p>We always had wolves in the area.  People figured they were drifting down from Canada&#8217;s wilderness.  Nobody paid much attention &#8211; at least not that I heard.   There was probably a good balance that has now been destroyed by reintroduction.  North Lincoln Co. has been devastated.  The cattlemen are mostly gone, small farms have had livestock attacked and killed &#8211; and not eaten.  The game is sparse, and there is danger from wolves when hunting.  Mountain lions have become a problem because there territory and food sources have been taken over by wolves.  </p>
<p>On top of the wolves, the environmentalists have completely stopped all logging and shut down the mills.  Huge forest fires are the result of their &#8220;no management&#8221; and let mother nature alone doctrine.  At times the air is so thick with smoke that you can&#8217;t see for a half mile in front of you, and there are air quality warnings.  The environmental movement threw the baby out with the bath water.  </p>
<p>Now we have hard financial times, with fiscal deficit etc.  I wonder if the general public &#8211; the vast majority not having a realistic clue about the land outside the urban areas &#8211; would even take into consideration the costs of the wolf reintroduction program.  I believe they are so brainwashed by educators, slick glossy magazines, etc.  that they would think any expense is justified.  Just the aircraft tracking expenses are huge.  What has the whole thing cost, and what have the financial losses to the people been?  Where were those figures published?  What will the costs of control be in the future when it finally is no longer possible to lie away the problems, and reality sets in.  I feel strongly that in order to help balance our budget, programs like wolf reintroduction need to be stopped immediately.  </p>
<p>Let those who truly know and understand the land they live in manage its resources.  North Lincoln Co. Montana could be the poster child for what happens when misled radical environmentalists and their highly funded organizations take over.  The impact is huge for this large area with few residents.   They have only pennies to fight the millions that have been spent by the environmental movement to take over and destroy what was a way of life for hundreds of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are fighting a disease known as Mad Environmentalisms disease.. It really is getting out of hand, and the deeper we study and research it the more we learn, it ties into several other diseases, Marxism, Hegel&#039;s dogma, and even habitual lying and false representation of evidence to support the Mad Environmentalisms disease, it is so terrible it will most likely destroy this Nation..  Unless millions of Americans can find the courage to stand up and inject the patients with the needed meds and soon, we are all fucked..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are fighting a disease known as Mad Environmentalisms disease.. It really is getting out of hand, and the deeper we study and research it the more we learn, it ties into several other diseases, Marxism, Hegel&#8217;s dogma, and even habitual lying and false representation of evidence to support the Mad Environmentalisms disease, it is so terrible it will most likely destroy this Nation..  Unless millions of Americans can find the courage to stand up and inject the patients with the needed meds and soon, we are all fucked..</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever heard of Mad Cow disease, how about Bird Flu, maybe even Swine Flu? I don&#039;t recall there being a Wolf Flu.

Before you start blaming wolves for bringing problems you should start blaming the cattle industry, the chicken industry, the pig industry, and people. People have brought so many diseases that it could never even begin to compare to the ones that animals have brought.

It&#039;s funny that wild wolves do not have these problems, it&#039;s only the ones that have come in contact with humans. Parasites and diseases that are carried on wolves haven&#039;t killed a single soul, yet Mad Cow, Bird Flu, and Swine Flu have killed thousands of people.

So instead of fighting against the wolves, help fight against the diseases and parasites that can easily infect the people under our own roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard of Mad Cow disease, how about Bird Flu, maybe even Swine Flu? I don&#8217;t recall there being a Wolf Flu.</p>
<p>Before you start blaming wolves for bringing problems you should start blaming the cattle industry, the chicken industry, the pig industry, and people. People have brought so many diseases that it could never even begin to compare to the ones that animals have brought.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that wild wolves do not have these problems, it&#8217;s only the ones that have come in contact with humans. Parasites and diseases that are carried on wolves haven&#8217;t killed a single soul, yet Mad Cow, Bird Flu, and Swine Flu have killed thousands of people.</p>
<p>So instead of fighting against the wolves, help fight against the diseases and parasites that can easily infect the people under our own roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come come now Thomas, and emotional society does not need the facts, they are the   &quot; we want it now people &quot; regardless of the final outcome.. Damn the truth full wolves ahead...  

And on a lighter note, can you imagine the destruction of the grizzly bears should they start getting Rabies..  Oh the Irony of it all.

The New Age Environmentalist movement will cause the deaths of millions of humans and wild life... They in fact are now, millions in third world countries are starving because of the bio fuels scam,  millions will starve in America soon.. 

Thanks Environmental Midgets..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come come now Thomas, and emotional society does not need the facts, they are the   &#8221; we want it now people &#8221; regardless of the final outcome.. Damn the truth full wolves ahead&#8230;  </p>
<p>And on a lighter note, can you imagine the destruction of the grizzly bears should they start getting Rabies..  Oh the Irony of it all.</p>
<p>The New Age Environmentalist movement will cause the deaths of millions of humans and wild life&#8230; They in fact are now, millions in third world countries are starving because of the bio fuels scam,  millions will starve in America soon.. </p>
<p>Thanks Environmental Midgets..</p>
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