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		<title>By: Gea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.
Yes, I am Living with Wolves fan.
Jim and Jamie did a good job with the wolves.
I enjoyed the documentary about Kamots, Chemuck, Matsi, Motomo, Amani, Wahots, Wyakin and Lakota, these fine animals.
They really moved my heart.

Thank you.

Gea from the Netherland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.<br />
Yes, I am Living with Wolves fan.<br />
Jim and Jamie did a good job with the wolves.<br />
I enjoyed the documentary about Kamots, Chemuck, Matsi, Motomo, Amani, Wahots, Wyakin and Lakota, these fine animals.<br />
They really moved my heart.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Gea from the Netherland</p>
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		<title>By: jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Lee, I saw the site, and the way they think of wolves, and if you fed a wolf like some people I&#039;ve seen, you would have a 300 lb.wolf....and when you have a pet, you can do that....of course, he wouldn&#039;t have the agility or be able to do much but waddle.....and you are possibly getting too caught up in contractions....or hermaphrodites....or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Lee, I saw the site, and the way they think of wolves, and if you fed a wolf like some people I&#8217;ve seen, you would have a 300 lb.wolf&#8230;.and when you have a pet, you can do that&#8230;.of course, he wouldn&#8217;t have the agility or be able to do much but waddle&#8230;..and you are possibly getting too caught up in contractions&#8230;.or hermaphrodites&#8230;.or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jes, perhaps you did not look at the site that is selling wolves or read very carefully Greg&#039;s list of subspecies they are selling and their weights.  Count up 5 posts from your last one.

And if I feel as you assume I do and if i were a believer why would I thank herim?   (that is my contraction to represent her and/or him.  It couild also be himer, but ladies first; and then there is shehe or heshe.)

I have no doubt that you are correct in that &quot;one decent, healthy, well conditioned wolf of 100 lbs. or less, could easily bring down a man, and kill him&quot;.

Considering the number of wolves that humans have killed it is possibly a good behavior that they are &quot;sport killers&quot; rather than revenge killers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jes, perhaps you did not look at the site that is selling wolves or read very carefully Greg&#8217;s list of subspecies they are selling and their weights.  Count up 5 posts from your last one.</p>
<p>And if I feel as you assume I do and if i were a believer why would I thank herim?   (that is my contraction to represent her and/or him.  It couild also be himer, but ladies first; and then there is shehe or heshe.)</p>
<p>I have no doubt that you are correct in that &#8220;one decent, healthy, well conditioned wolf of 100 lbs. or less, could easily bring down a man, and kill him&#8221;.</p>
<p>Considering the number of wolves that humans have killed it is possibly a good behavior that they are &#8220;sport killers&#8221; rather than revenge killers.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee is the wolf &quot;expert&quot; who has never seen them in the wilds of Idaho, never spent real time with one,  and tries to discredit a breeder.  And her &quot;peer&quot; reviewed science is the only true dogma, err science with any credibility. You know how it is, Maughan, Cole, and Marvel speak the gospel.

Man written up science is her god Jes.

When one of the most Liberal State in this u.s. corporation comes out and sends a Conservative to the Senate it just means the Liberals out number the Libtards.

I&#039;ve been watching that dual and when it concluded today I was rolling on the floor roaring with laughter..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee is the wolf &#8220;expert&#8221; who has never seen them in the wilds of Idaho, never spent real time with one,  and tries to discredit a breeder.  And her &#8220;peer&#8221; reviewed science is the only true dogma, err science with any credibility. You know how it is, Maughan, Cole, and Marvel speak the gospel.</p>
<p>Man written up science is her god Jes.</p>
<p>When one of the most Liberal State in this u.s. corporation comes out and sends a Conservative to the Senate it just means the Liberals out number the Libtards.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching that dual and when it concluded today I was rolling on the floor roaring with laughter..</p>
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		<title>By: jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Lee, aren&#039;t you upset with the elections in Massachusetts? Me, I&#039;m elated! The people have begun to speak, and if the liberals who have re-elected Kennedy for the last 40 years, have shown their Democratic representatives what they think of what they are putting over on us by giving away the farm with banker subsidies, and health control rather than health help, then you are going to see BIG changes, very very soon.. Thank God! (oh, I forgot, you can&#039;t thank God, you don&#039;t believe in Him, right)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Lee, aren&#8217;t you upset with the elections in Massachusetts? Me, I&#8217;m elated! The people have begun to speak, and if the liberals who have re-elected Kennedy for the last 40 years, have shown their Democratic representatives what they think of what they are putting over on us by giving away the farm with banker subsidies, and health control rather than health help, then you are going to see BIG changes, very very soon.. Thank God! (oh, I forgot, you can&#8217;t thank God, you don&#8217;t believe in Him, right)?</p>
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		<title>By: jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, I&#039;m not picking on you, I&#039;m just lumping you in with all the other left wing liberal wolf lovers....(is that not where you stand)? Nice photos of wolves on that site, though...Just who was claiming there&#039;s 300 lb. wolves?? To tell you the truth, one decent, healthy, well conditioned wolf of 100 lbs. or less, could easily bring down a man, and kill him....much less a child. Two or more could rip apart any man who is efficient at fighting, and strong enough to tackle one on one....It&#039;s only a matter of time before it is proven in fact.....and has more than likely happened already, without any evidence to conclusively prove it to the skeptics who love the wolf without reservation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, I&#8217;m not picking on you, I&#8217;m just lumping you in with all the other left wing liberal wolf lovers&#8230;.(is that not where you stand)? Nice photos of wolves on that site, though&#8230;Just who was claiming there&#8217;s 300 lb. wolves?? To tell you the truth, one decent, healthy, well conditioned wolf of 100 lbs. or less, could easily bring down a man, and kill him&#8230;.much less a child. Two or more could rip apart any man who is efficient at fighting, and strong enough to tackle one on one&#8230;.It&#8217;s only a matter of time before it is proven in fact&#8230;..and has more than likely happened already, without any evidence to conclusively prove it to the skeptics who love the wolf without reservation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no 300 pound wolves.

&quot;As the smallest subspecies of gray wolf, the Mexican gray wolf varies in size from 50 to 64 inches long (nose to tail), 24 to 32 inches shoulder height, and weighs from 50 to 90 pounds. &quot;  If their wolves weigh 200 pounds they are grossly over weight.
http://www.cosmosmith.com/mexican_wolves.html


jes, why jump on me for statements I did not make? The comments you are remarking about were on the site sent in by SR  and comes from someone selling wolves as pets.

I still think their McKinzie wolves look like malemutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no 300 pound wolves.</p>
<p>&#8220;As the smallest subspecies of gray wolf, the Mexican gray wolf varies in size from 50 to 64 inches long (nose to tail), 24 to 32 inches shoulder height, and weighs from 50 to 90 pounds. &#8221;  If their wolves weigh 200 pounds they are grossly over weight.<br />
<a href="http://www.cosmosmith.com/mexican_wolves.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cosmosmith.com/mexican_wolves.html</a></p>
<p>jes, why jump on me for statements I did not make? The comments you are remarking about were on the site sent in by SR  and comes from someone selling wolves as pets.</p>
<p>I still think their McKinzie wolves look like malemutes.</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading about habituated wolves in Yellowstone, and have observed several of the stages described by Dr. Geist here in central Idaho.  The younger wolves seem to be the least afraid of people and have approached humans on numerous occasions over the last 5 years. This has been followed by &quot;mock attacks&quot; - in some cases.  There have been folks out hiking that realize they have a wolf following them. Campers have reported wolves sniffing, growling and howling around their tents and campers at night. Campers have had live stock attacked and killed (including the guard donkey.) Hunters have lost dogs. Neighbors have had wolves in their yards, dogs have been killed. People have tried running wolves off, to have them return shortly. At first we tried reporting wolf sightings to FWS, and were told &quot;it was probably a dog&quot;. Well sir, I happen to know every dog in town and it wasn&#039;t one of them coming at my husband in the driveway a few weeks ago!  We hear wolves howling so often now that its not even remarkable anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading about habituated wolves in Yellowstone, and have observed several of the stages described by Dr. Geist here in central Idaho.  The younger wolves seem to be the least afraid of people and have approached humans on numerous occasions over the last 5 years. This has been followed by &#8220;mock attacks&#8221; &#8211; in some cases.  There have been folks out hiking that realize they have a wolf following them. Campers have reported wolves sniffing, growling and howling around their tents and campers at night. Campers have had live stock attacked and killed (including the guard donkey.) Hunters have lost dogs. Neighbors have had wolves in their yards, dogs have been killed. People have tried running wolves off, to have them return shortly. At first we tried reporting wolf sightings to FWS, and were told &#8220;it was probably a dog&#8221;. Well sir, I happen to know every dog in town and it wasn&#8217;t one of them coming at my husband in the driveway a few weeks ago!  We hear wolves howling so often now that its not even remarkable anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the average sizes.. Canadian 150 pounds. I&#039;ve known about this place, I am seriously contemplating a male again..   But I am looking around at other breeders as well..



Our Average Sizes



To help you make a decision on which type of wolf you may want we thought we would give you an idea of what the average size of our wolves are:

Mexican Gray: 25&quot; at shoulder 200 lbs

Tundra: 22&quot; at shoulder 75 lbs

Canadian: 26&quot; at shoulder 150 lbs

Mckenzie Artic: 30&quot; at shoulder 300 lbs

Usually females are about 20% smaller than males.

Classification: Canus Lupus, The Grey Wolf, also known as the Timber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the average sizes.. Canadian 150 pounds. I&#8217;ve known about this place, I am seriously contemplating a male again..   But I am looking around at other breeders as well..</p>
<p>Our Average Sizes</p>
<p>To help you make a decision on which type of wolf you may want we thought we would give you an idea of what the average size of our wolves are:</p>
<p>Mexican Gray: 25&#8243; at shoulder 200 lbs</p>
<p>Tundra: 22&#8243; at shoulder 75 lbs</p>
<p>Canadian: 26&#8243; at shoulder 150 lbs</p>
<p>Mckenzie Artic: 30&#8243; at shoulder 300 lbs</p>
<p>Usually females are about 20% smaller than males.</p>
<p>Classification: Canus Lupus, The Grey Wolf, also known as the Timber.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have seen wolves do some very feline type things. I think their agility is just incredible.  I believe, no I know wolves are at least ten times more athletic than dogs are, the best dog, and agile, and if the top lab or border collie is considered to be equal mentally to a three year old human child,  the wolf has to be seven or nine..  Many people including the wolves blind supporters severely under estimate the ability of this animal.  I just wish I had film clips of wolf playing with me, he was amazing.  I always had to invent new games or tricks because they only worked in my favor the first few times and then he beat me at them..  We used to kid around at home that if we split his tongue he would master English.  His cousins do not deserve the injustice of being used as a political weapon to destroy hunting and private property ownership for the U.N.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have seen wolves do some very feline type things. I think their agility is just incredible.  I believe, no I know wolves are at least ten times more athletic than dogs are, the best dog, and agile, and if the top lab or border collie is considered to be equal mentally to a three year old human child,  the wolf has to be seven or nine..  Many people including the wolves blind supporters severely under estimate the ability of this animal.  I just wish I had film clips of wolf playing with me, he was amazing.  I always had to invent new games or tricks because they only worked in my favor the first few times and then he beat me at them..  We used to kid around at home that if we split his tongue he would master English.  His cousins do not deserve the injustice of being used as a political weapon to destroy hunting and private property ownership for the U.N.</p>
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