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		<title>By: JTM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with Alaska Peninsula Resident&#039;s assessments</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich:

Let&#039;s put this into perspective...  I have cows and sometimes cows are dangerous, however if one proves to be dangerous, I put it in the freezer.  Can you imagiane having a pasture full of wolves, certainly thier would be no cows, or even me as the law prevents me from putting the wolf in the freezer.</description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s put this into perspective&#8230;  I have cows and sometimes cows are dangerous, however if one proves to be dangerous, I put it in the freezer.  Can you imagiane having a pasture full of wolves, certainly thier would be no cows, or even me as the law prevents me from putting the wolf in the freezer.</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boundary County couple deal with wolf attack

Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 - by LEE BUTTERS Boundary County - Bonners Ferry Herald

Editor’s note: This attack occurred on Friday, March 12 in the village of Chignik Lake, Alaska. According to CNN’s Web site, it is likely that the woman was mauled to death by animals, “most likely wolves.” The cause of her death is yet to be confirmed.

We received this e-mail from our daughter ....

“Please pray, our special Ed teacher, Candice , is missing:

A few hours ago some villagers found a body in the side of the road, apparently killed by wolves.

Candice is the only female unaccounted for and she told the other teacher she was going out for a walk this afternoon. My husband went to the site and the remains fit her description. The troopers can’t make it until morning and won’t let us move the body until then.  So, in the midst of a terribly cold blizzard, men are going to stand watch over her body throughout the night.

A few hours later:

The troopers finally gave permission to move the body due to increasing wolf attacks on it, so thankfully no one has to spend the night in the blizzard.  The male teachers are helping move her right now. I just hope they are not too traumatized by the event. So far my husband  is holding strong, even after seeing it the first time.”

I will spare you many of the details, but I will tell you I was traumatized.  Not just for my daughter and her husband, or for Candice’s family.  You see, I graduated in Wildlife Resources from Utah State University in 1971.  I have a great respect and interest in wolves and thought that this kind of thing just does not happen.

I pulled out my copy of “Wolves and Men” read it anew.  Well, maybe it has happened, but nothing in the last few hundred years in North America, or so I thought.

It wasn’t long before a simple Google search for “wolf attacks on humans” lead me to a Wikepedia article, and others, that proved me wrong.

Besides being a graduate in wildlife biology, I have spent several weeks in the remote Alaskan village where the attack took place.  Being known for its brown bear population, everyone knows to take proper precautions during bear season.  In my daughter’s own words, “we were warned about the bears long before we ever came here three years ago.  No one ever even mentioned a danger from wolves.”

Wolf advocates will come back with all kinds of justifications for the incident. I am willing to meet them head on.

I will tell you Candice was not walking with a dog, there were no nearby kills that the pack was protecting and there have been no reports of rabies in the region for many years. She was just walking on a road about a mile and a half from the village.  If she had not been found soon after being killed, there would likely be little left of her.

Consider this a warning to my fellow North Idahoans.  When walking, camping, hunting, or just enjoying the great outdoors, be aware that the danger from wolves is not just to elk, dear and livestock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boundary County couple deal with wolf attack</p>
<p>Thursday, Mar 18, 2010 &#8211; by LEE BUTTERS Boundary County &#8211; Bonners Ferry Herald</p>
<p>Editor’s note: This attack occurred on Friday, March 12 in the village of Chignik Lake, Alaska. According to CNN’s Web site, it is likely that the woman was mauled to death by animals, “most likely wolves.” The cause of her death is yet to be confirmed.</p>
<p>We received this e-mail from our daughter &#8230;.</p>
<p>“Please pray, our special Ed teacher, Candice , is missing:</p>
<p>A few hours ago some villagers found a body in the side of the road, apparently killed by wolves.</p>
<p>Candice is the only female unaccounted for and she told the other teacher she was going out for a walk this afternoon. My husband went to the site and the remains fit her description. The troopers can’t make it until morning and won’t let us move the body until then.  So, in the midst of a terribly cold blizzard, men are going to stand watch over her body throughout the night.</p>
<p>A few hours later:</p>
<p>The troopers finally gave permission to move the body due to increasing wolf attacks on it, so thankfully no one has to spend the night in the blizzard.  The male teachers are helping move her right now. I just hope they are not too traumatized by the event. So far my husband  is holding strong, even after seeing it the first time.”</p>
<p>I will spare you many of the details, but I will tell you I was traumatized.  Not just for my daughter and her husband, or for Candice’s family.  You see, I graduated in Wildlife Resources from Utah State University in 1971.  I have a great respect and interest in wolves and thought that this kind of thing just does not happen.</p>
<p>I pulled out my copy of “Wolves and Men” read it anew.  Well, maybe it has happened, but nothing in the last few hundred years in North America, or so I thought.</p>
<p>It wasn’t long before a simple Google search for “wolf attacks on humans” lead me to a Wikepedia article, and others, that proved me wrong.</p>
<p>Besides being a graduate in wildlife biology, I have spent several weeks in the remote Alaskan village where the attack took place.  Being known for its brown bear population, everyone knows to take proper precautions during bear season.  In my daughter’s own words, “we were warned about the bears long before we ever came here three years ago.  No one ever even mentioned a danger from wolves.”</p>
<p>Wolf advocates will come back with all kinds of justifications for the incident. I am willing to meet them head on.</p>
<p>I will tell you Candice was not walking with a dog, there were no nearby kills that the pack was protecting and there have been no reports of rabies in the region for many years. She was just walking on a road about a mile and a half from the village.  If she had not been found soon after being killed, there would likely be little left of her.</p>
<p>Consider this a warning to my fellow North Idahoans.  When walking, camping, hunting, or just enjoying the great outdoors, be aware that the danger from wolves is not just to elk, dear and livestock.</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harley - we live in a small village in central Idaho, far from paved roads. (I do not wish to identify where, too many weirdos in this world.)

From what little has been put out about the &quot;incident&quot; in Alaska, it appears the locals were well informed about bears. However this time of year the bears are denned up and do not pose a threat.  Couple that with the propaganda put out that &quot;wolves won&#039;t attack humans&quot; - along with the lack of attacks on people - I believe this lead to folks feeling comfortable in their surroundings. I don&#039;t think Candice made a &quot;poor choice&quot; - as she had no reason to believe she would be attacked by wolves.

However, reading as much as I can find from sources like Dr. Geist and Will Graves (and also personal family history from the old country) I do believe that habituated or hungry wolves will attack people.  I have been sharing this information with friends and neighbors.  We no longer go walking in the woods alone or unarmed.  Our dogs are getting fat since they are no longer allowed to run or even do their jobs to keep foxes away from the hen house.

I found a story from a north Idaho paper, I&#039;ll get it and post it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harley &#8211; we live in a small village in central Idaho, far from paved roads. (I do not wish to identify where, too many weirdos in this world.)</p>
<p>From what little has been put out about the &#8220;incident&#8221; in Alaska, it appears the locals were well informed about bears. However this time of year the bears are denned up and do not pose a threat.  Couple that with the propaganda put out that &#8220;wolves won&#8217;t attack humans&#8221; &#8211; along with the lack of attacks on people &#8211; I believe this lead to folks feeling comfortable in their surroundings. I don&#8217;t think Candice made a &#8220;poor choice&#8221; &#8211; as she had no reason to believe she would be attacked by wolves.</p>
<p>However, reading as much as I can find from sources like Dr. Geist and Will Graves (and also personal family history from the old country) I do believe that habituated or hungry wolves will attack people.  I have been sharing this information with friends and neighbors.  We no longer go walking in the woods alone or unarmed.  Our dogs are getting fat since they are no longer allowed to run or even do their jobs to keep foxes away from the hen house.</p>
<p>I found a story from a north Idaho paper, I&#8217;ll get it and post it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never tried plugging my lap top into a bush before, sounds kinky.  I suppose down here down under in downstate Idaho we should stop making poor choices like jogging down and established road, or riding bicycles, or back packing into Idaho Bush country to fish or hunt, or just enjoy the out doors.. Those are poor choices I suppose, being human is a poor choice..  Knowing those wolves were around a village and doing nothing about them until after a &quot; friend &quot; is munched by them is a real poor choice also..  Who needs friends like you &quot; Resident &quot;   when their are plenty of anti humanist earth freaks around to be mans enemy.. After all, all it takes is a little real research to understand that when wolves start hanging around villages and people, eventually the wolves make a poor choice to, they kill a human being.. And then the wolves die to.  The wolves should have been removed before the incident could take place.. It&#039;s called vision, foresight, which comes from previous knowledge, if not by yourself, from others experiences with wolves.. Russia and unarmed Peasants is a damn fine place to start..  At least this girl had the courage to get out and live and enjoy her time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never tried plugging my lap top into a bush before, sounds kinky.  I suppose down here down under in downstate Idaho we should stop making poor choices like jogging down and established road, or riding bicycles, or back packing into Idaho Bush country to fish or hunt, or just enjoy the out doors.. Those are poor choices I suppose, being human is a poor choice..  Knowing those wolves were around a village and doing nothing about them until after a &#8221; friend &#8221; is munched by them is a real poor choice also..  Who needs friends like you &#8221; Resident &#8221;   when their are plenty of anti humanist earth freaks around to be mans enemy.. After all, all it takes is a little real research to understand that when wolves start hanging around villages and people, eventually the wolves make a poor choice to, they kill a human being.. And then the wolves die to.  The wolves should have been removed before the incident could take place.. It&#8217;s called vision, foresight, which comes from previous knowledge, if not by yourself, from others experiences with wolves.. Russia and unarmed Peasants is a damn fine place to start..  At least this girl had the courage to get out and live and enjoy her time.</p>
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		<title>By: Harley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TLM, I&#039;m sorry if it&#039;s been stated before, I may have missed it but do you live in Alaska?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TLM, I&#8217;m sorry if it&#8217;s been stated before, I may have missed it but do you live in Alaska?</p>
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		<title>By: jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong on both counts, Alaska Peninsula Resident, I&#039;m not an &quot;asshole&quot;, and neither am I concerned about California residents. The fact remains, that you did not answer me as to whether you were a &quot;native&quot; or not. That you &quot;live in the bush&quot;, does not qualify you as anything in itself. I wonder how many native Alaskans define themselves as &quot;living in the bush&quot;?

You sound like all the rest of these wolf idolizers when you say, &quot;Candice made some poor decisions that made her an easy target.&quot; That doesn&#039;t sound like a friend at all......neither does it sound like a native that lives off the land. Try again, resident....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong on both counts, Alaska Peninsula Resident, I&#8217;m not an &#8220;asshole&#8221;, and neither am I concerned about California residents. The fact remains, that you did not answer me as to whether you were a &#8220;native&#8221; or not. That you &#8220;live in the bush&#8221;, does not qualify you as anything in itself. I wonder how many native Alaskans define themselves as &#8220;living in the bush&#8221;?</p>
<p>You sound like all the rest of these wolf idolizers when you say, &#8220;Candice made some poor decisions that made her an easy target.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t sound like a friend at all&#8230;&#8230;neither does it sound like a native that lives off the land. Try again, resident&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are concerned with what happened to Candice. Our village is smaller than Chignik Lake, and we have been seeing the signs that the wolves are becoming habituated to us.

Any real information is welcome, Alaska has dealt with wolves far longer than Idaho has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are concerned with what happened to Candice. Our village is smaller than Chignik Lake, and we have been seeing the signs that the wolves are becoming habituated to us.</p>
<p>Any real information is welcome, Alaska has dealt with wolves far longer than Idaho has.</p>
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		<title>By: Harley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gathered from her blog that she was well aware of the dangers of bears, but was she aware of the dangers of wolves? I&#039;m not trying to make any kind of statement here, just trying to figure out how informed she was because it seemed like she wasn&#039;t naive but I don&#039;t know. It just sucks she had to die like that, die at all really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gathered from her blog that she was well aware of the dangers of bears, but was she aware of the dangers of wolves? I&#8217;m not trying to make any kind of statement here, just trying to figure out how informed she was because it seemed like she wasn&#8217;t naive but I don&#8217;t know. It just sucks she had to die like that, die at all really.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaska Peninsula Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaska Peninsula Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction--Fish and Wildlife provided the traps and bait to the villagers, not Fish and Game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8211;Fish and Wildlife provided the traps and bait to the villagers, not Fish and Game.</p>
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