Open Thread – November 29, 2012

Please use this open thread to post your information, comments and ideas about issues not covered in articles published on the Black Bear Blog. Thank you.

Bobalee

Good news for steelhead.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2012/john-day-river-11-28-2012.html

RattlerRider

Yeah, amazing how those steel head survived millions of Moose, elk and deer tromping up those stream beds before the European Cattle arrived.

Bobalee

RR
Since there was no vegetation on land for the first 4 billion plus years of Earth history there were no wild fires. (so you can drop the billions and billions from your dialogs.) None of those other critters you mention existed either. The radiation of mammals occurred during the Cenezoic era which started about 65 million years ago.

One of my favorite Gary Larsen cartoons was of the dinosaurs shivering while looking skyward as snow began falling and an early mammal, in fur, went about doing its thing at the end of the Mesazoic era (about 65 million years ago). By the way, stream beds are also of recent vintage, geologically speaking.

RattlerRider

Lol, you just love pretending you’re teaching/telling us something you presume we haven’t read before, how do you think some here easily concluded you’re all a pack of unread clowns?, do you always mistake sarcasm for lack of knowledge? As far as those other “species” not existing pre European’s coming here, can we conclude then that there is disagreement amongst the super evolved bright people community you’re from, concerning that claim as many of them contradict you on that..

alrem

New World Order Education: Useful Engines in the “One World Schoolhouse”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-world-order-education-useful-engines-in-the-one-world-schoolhouse/5308822

RattlerRider

Yeah, the New World Order’s Scientism is gospel followers of the Masonic British Royal Society pushing Evil-ution, they’re all so opened minded their brains fell out..

Bobalee

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/29/us-usa-reindeer-habitat-idUSBRE8AR1D320121129

” Unlike other types of caribou, some of which live in Alaska, the Selkirk herd inhabits elevations above 4,000 feet and rely on old-growth forests for lichen, a chief source of food, and protection from predators.

The greatest threat to survival of the animal is fragmentation of its territory by logging, wildfires, road-building and recreation trails, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service.

The reduction from the original critical habitat proposal (from 375,000 to 30,000 acres) came after Idaho’s Republican leaders and groups promoting the use of public lands for motorized recreation and commercial operations objected to protections they said
would limit such activities as logging, hunting and snowmobiling.”

alrem

Barbara, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service, fairy tales are as true. You wouldn’t ever suspect their words are not true do you? We try to tell you they lie but you’re positive they do not, is that correct?

Bobalee

Are you suggesting that logging, road building, fires, and recreation trails are compatible with these caribou? If so, I would like to read your source.

wolf moderate

I hope you are not suggesting that most people give a flying fck about a few caribou.
Look at the economy and get back to me.
If you want to see some caribou DON’T come to Idaho, go to N Canada or Alaska lol

Bobalee

No, I am not suggesting that most people care about this sub species of caribou; most are probably not even aware that it exists.

You certainly exemplify the attitude of many humans to other life forms.
When one asks “what good is it?” they are actually asking “what good is it to me”.
RattlerRider

Yawn, whatever miss scarcity of wildlife supporter and pusher.
Bobalee

I would rather the caribou were eliminated by wolves than by the real threats of their extinction – which is probably going to happen soon due to the lack of concern by Idaho hunters, loggers, and snow machine users.
Check out the former range of woodland caribou. Why are they no longer in those areas?
What is the origin for the name of Caribou county in Idaho?
RattlerRider

Still human caused either way, because humans could stop either cause, that makes you just as guilty as the rest of humanity.
wolf moderate

Why should anyone care about a few caribou that can’t make it on today’s terms? There is no way that they are going to thrive w/o severe reductions in human activity. Who is selfish, the ones wanting to let them die or the ones pushing to make them live?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chandie-Morse-Bartell/1623038291 Chandie Morse Bartell

Take a break Barb, you sound like a recorder.
alrem

Spent a month living in a tent this summer, right. ‘Ruffin’ it, you know. Wi-fi came in real good for the laptop. A Sci-fi flick I watched, the secret terrorists were going to turn everyone into Zombies by connecting them to a machine. In the movie, abductions were common; a laborious task, taking people to the machine…, as the movie goes.

In reality, the machine was brought to the individual; no need to go anywhere to be connected. Without leaving the comfort of one’s own chare, even. – chair also.
RattlerRider

Uh-oh, you probably caused an extinction doing that..
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chandie-Morse-Bartell/1623038291 Chandie Morse Bartell

Oh, please you don’t give a damm. You just care because you like the thought of all that land being locked up and people being put out of work, and no human activity for your Wildlands pipe-dream. 4 caribou were counted. Their getting the crap predated out of them across the border. We got one of the meetings on film, we made fools out of your scientists.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Chandie-Morse-Bartell/1623038291 Chandie Morse Bartell

Listen it’s predation Barb, so get off it. You know that fact you just don’t care because you are a paid liar most likely. Another thing, why is Canada reporting that wolves are killing the caribou herds across the border? But on our side the science -is just more made up bull-shit. We don’t buy it.

And another thing, tell me why the loggers up there tell me that when they fall trees the caribou would eat the lichen off of them and moss as soon as they fell them, this was told to me in 2009 Bonner’s Ferry, Idaho. The caribou live fine on the tundra, they don’t need old-growth, and it’s your damm wolves.

RattlerRider

I want my own state, right here in Central Idaho, ten square miles will do nicely, my great great grandaddy claimed it when it was just a territory, he even had a deal with the Turtle Islanders at the time, it’s owed us. We settled on it illegally but who cares, give it to us, I just know I would have wanted it “billions and billions” of years ago, I think Bigfoot took a dump here someplace, the rocks told me so.. Rocks never lie..

Palestinians Poised to Win Historic U.N. Statehood Vote

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/palestinians-poised-win-historic-statehood-vote/story?id=17837415#.ULfCN2if_0c
RattlerRider

This is the crap left wing liberals wanna be friends with;

15-Year-Old Afghan Girl Beheaded For Rejecting Marriage Proposal
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/11/29/15-year-old-afghan-girl-beheaded-for-rejecting-marriage-proposal/

Jewish Woman in Iran Cut in Half for Refusing to Turn Over Her Home to a Mosque

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240075/Now-sick-babies-death-pathway-Doctors-haunting-testimony-reveals-children-end-life-plan.html
RattlerRider

LOOK UP THE WORD RAPTURE!

Origin of RAPTURE:
“Latin”= raptus
First Known Use: 1594

IT DOES “NOT” INDICATE CATCHING UP, CATCHING AWAY, MEETING THE LORD IN THE AIR?????
THE JESUITS HAVE CREATED A FALSE MEANING TO AN (NON- EXISTENT) WORD IN THE HOLY WORD OF GOD!
LOOK:
( An expression of ecstatic feeling. The state of being transported by a lofty emotion. the state of mind resulting from feelings of high emotion; joyous ecstasy. an expression of ecstatic joy. a state of being carried away by overwhelming emotion; “listening to sweet music in a perfect rapture”- Charles Dickens. the state of a person’s emotions (especially with regard to pleasure or dejection); “his emotional state depended on her opinion”; “he was in good spirits”. – a state of elated bliss.
an expression or manifestation of ecstasy or passion
a state or experience of being carried away by overwhelming emotion
a mystical experience in which the spirit is exalted to a knowledge of divine things. (NOT WISDOM???) THE BIBLE IS OUR EXALTATION OF KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM OF DIVINE THINGS)

He listened to the wind in the trees, his eyes closed in rapture.

ecstasy, delight, enthusiasm, joy, transport, spell, happiness, bliss, euphoria, felicity, rhapsody, exaltation, cloud nine (informal), seventh heaven, delectation, beatitude, ravishment His speech was received with rapture by his supporters.
go into or be in raptures wax lyrical, rave, enthuse, gush, go mad, go crazy, go wild, rhapsodize He goes into raptures over the brilliantly coloured paintwork.

cloud nine, elatedness, elation, euphoria, exhilaration, heaven, high, intoxication, paradise, ecstasy, rhapsody, seventh heaven, swoon, transport
Antonyms: depression
Related Words: exaltation; blessedness, bliss, blissfulness, delight, enchantment, felicity, gladness, happiness, joy, joyfulness, joyousness, pleasure; reverie, trance; inspiration; fervor, frenzy, madness, passion; cheer, cheerfulness, exuberance, gaiety (also gayety), glee, gleefulness, jubilance, jubilation, lightheartedness
Near Antonyms: misery, sadness, unhappiness, woe, wretchedness; blues, dejection, desolation, despair, despondency, disconsolateness, disheartenment, dispiritedness, doldrums, downheartedness, dreariness, dumps, forlornness, gloom, gloominess, heartsickness, melancholy, mopes

ALSO….LOOK UP THE WORD GAY!

Rapture
http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/search/word,rapture

Gay
http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/search/word,gay
RattlerRider

Fluoride: A Chronological History

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/10/31/fluoride-a-chronological-history/

http://www.facebook.com/people/Chandie-Morse-Bartell/1623038291 Chandie Morse Bartell

I was one of the teachers against the flouride rinse they made our students do every morning.

RattlerRider

They had no right to make children do a fluoride rinse, they bluffed em.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Chandie-Morse-Bartell/1623038291 Chandie Morse Bartell

Parents signed the permission slips sent out by the school district, and so those students rinsed after first recess at 10: 25 a.m. once a week. I got into an argument with the janitor one night over it, and she said, Chandie they put it in our town well water. And I told her no they don’t as I called to find out. Reason I was against it was my mother was reading a book how to fight cancer, and there were several chapters about fluoride written by medical specialists, including one Johns Hopkins doctor. I had a borrowed copy of the book, and I just told my parents, and they had their children removed from the fluoride list, if they chose. Eventually it was dropped.

RattlerRider

UN War against the Natural Health Industry
http://www.nonaiswa.org/wordpress/?p=9508
RattlerRider

It’s Official! The UN Merging of Human and Veterinary Medicine
http://www.nonaiswa.org/wordpress/?p=9644

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