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	<title>Comments on: Lead Ban Chronicles &#8211; Lead ammo availability</title>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/05/17/lead-ban-chronicles-lead-ammo-availability/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, that&#039;s a suspicion shared by an awful lot of people.  I tend to stay clear of the conspiracy theories most of the time, but that naivete has cost me more than once...  and this thing definitely does look fishy.

What I, personally, think is likely is that the lead ban was initially a well-intentioned, if not altogether well-considered idea.  It was dreamed up by some idealists with a core cause, saving the condor, and this was not a bad cause.  

However, it caught the attention of the wrong folks, anti-hunting groups, who saw in it an opportunity to at least take a swipe at legal hunting from an unanticipated angle.  Those groups supported the little idea, helped it grow, and helped to force it through.  

These same organizations are going to grab a hold of this &quot;lead in venison&quot; threat and leverage that to push this agenda on the rest of the country, even though the science behind their argument is sketchy and hypothetical, not to mention totally misunderstood by the non-hunting public (intentionally so).  

One big problem is pinning these groups (like the Peregrine Fund) down as anti-hunting, since they can trot out these hunters from their membership to challenge the accusation.  It keeps the sketptics at arm&#039;s length, because now you have to wonder if these hunters are duped by the organization, or if the organization believes its own hype.  

It&#039;s tricky road, proving those suspicions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, that&#8217;s a suspicion shared by an awful lot of people.  I tend to stay clear of the conspiracy theories most of the time, but that naivete has cost me more than once&#8230;  and this thing definitely does look fishy.</p>
<p>What I, personally, think is likely is that the lead ban was initially a well-intentioned, if not altogether well-considered idea.  It was dreamed up by some idealists with a core cause, saving the condor, and this was not a bad cause.  </p>
<p>However, it caught the attention of the wrong folks, anti-hunting groups, who saw in it an opportunity to at least take a swipe at legal hunting from an unanticipated angle.  Those groups supported the little idea, helped it grow, and helped to force it through.  </p>
<p>These same organizations are going to grab a hold of this &#8220;lead in venison&#8221; threat and leverage that to push this agenda on the rest of the country, even though the science behind their argument is sketchy and hypothetical, not to mention totally misunderstood by the non-hunting public (intentionally so).  </p>
<p>One big problem is pinning these groups (like the Peregrine Fund) down as anti-hunting, since they can trot out these hunters from their membership to challenge the accusation.  It keeps the sketptics at arm&#8217;s length, because now you have to wonder if these hunters are duped by the organization, or if the organization believes its own hype.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s tricky road, proving those suspicions.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/05/17/lead-ban-chronicles-lead-ammo-availability/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder if banning lead ammo when there is not much non-lead available is part of an effort to keep people from hunting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder if banning lead ammo when there is not much non-lead available is part of an effort to keep people from hunting.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/05/17/lead-ban-chronicles-lead-ammo-availability/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this time, the lead ban that we&#039;re seeing in CA has been proposed and rejected in Arizona.  Several other states are also looking at various bans on lead ammunition for other reasons.  Following the recent uproar about lead particles in food-bank venison, you can count on seeing more efforts coming out.  You can read through this blog for more discussion about the lead ban efforts in other states and around the world. 

The problem I, and many others have regarding this ban is that it&#039;s being imposed even though there are many calibers for which there are no non-lead alternatives.  I agree, as do many, that lead ammo should eventually be phased out.  But banning it while there are no choices for hunters is a dangerous precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this time, the lead ban that we&#8217;re seeing in CA has been proposed and rejected in Arizona.  Several other states are also looking at various bans on lead ammunition for other reasons.  Following the recent uproar about lead particles in food-bank venison, you can count on seeing more efforts coming out.  You can read through this blog for more discussion about the lead ban efforts in other states and around the world. </p>
<p>The problem I, and many others have regarding this ban is that it&#8217;s being imposed even though there are many calibers for which there are no non-lead alternatives.  I agree, as do many, that lead ammo should eventually be phased out.  But banning it while there are no choices for hunters is a dangerous precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Landflip</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/05/17/lead-ban-chronicles-lead-ammo-availability/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>Landflip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know if this ammo ban will take place in other states? It makes sense to get rid of the lead products.  Thank you for sharing this information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know if this ammo ban will take place in other states? It makes sense to get rid of the lead products.  Thank you for sharing this information.</p>
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