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	<title>Comments on: Lead Ban Chronicles &#8211; I&#8217;d Rather Fight than Switch</title>
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		<title>By: NorCal Cazadora</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>NorCal Cazadora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know. What kind of huntress am I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. What kind of huntress am I?</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1830</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, someone&#039;s priorities are just way off!</description>
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		<title>By: NorCal Cazadora</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1829</link>
		<dc:creator>NorCal Cazadora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably after we get a new roof and I pay off my credit cards. It sure won&#039;t be before deer season (for rifles) is over :-(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably after we get a new roof and I pay off my credit cards. It sure won&#8217;t be before deer season (for rifles) is over <img src='http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, I hope it is helpful.  

When are you getting that rifle anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, I hope it is helpful.  </p>
<p>When are you getting that rifle anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: NorCal Cazadora</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1827</link>
		<dc:creator>NorCal Cazadora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great post, Phillip. Lots of useful stuff that I&#039;ll put to use when I get my own rifle and stop borrowing Boyfriend&#039;s.

-Holly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great post, Phillip. Lots of useful stuff that I&#8217;ll put to use when I get my own rifle and stop borrowing Boyfriend&#8217;s.</p>
<p>-Holly</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s potentially a big gotcha, Jesse... especially in the next year or so when they move from the &quot;education&quot; phase of enforcement (this season) to a &quot;crack-down&quot; phase.  

But, if you&#039;re like me and have ammo rolling around from guns you don&#039;t even own (I&#039;ve got .300RUM, .45acp, and lord knows what else all over the deck in my truck... and I&#039;ve never even owned either of those), you don&#039;t have as much to worry about.  

The law specifically states you can&#039;t have lead ammo AND a firearm that shoots it in the possession while hunting big game.  If it&#039;s just the ammo and the gun is at home, you&#039;re fine.  

Of course, defining &quot;while hunting&quot; is a slippery one in itself.  So far, I can&#039;t get a strict answer from DFG about this one.  For example, say I drive down to my favorite A zone spot to hunt deer this fall.  I&#039;ll be there a few days, so I pack the scattergun for quail.  Of course, the scattergun stays in camp while I&#039;m deer hunting... and the rife stays in camp while I&#039;m quail hunting.  On the way out of the campground to go home, I get stopped...  am I in violation or not?  I&#039;m not hunting, I&#039;m driving home.  

From experience, we all know that&#039;s going to depend completely on the DFG officer at the time that I&#039;m stopped.  If he&#039;s uptight and by-the-book, I&#039;m gonna get a ticket.  If he&#039;s more of the practical type, I probably won&#039;t.  The problem with that is that it leaves the hunters completely at the mercy of the system.  

Oh, and Michael...  the answer to your question is the topic of today&#039;s blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s potentially a big gotcha, Jesse&#8230; especially in the next year or so when they move from the &#8220;education&#8221; phase of enforcement (this season) to a &#8220;crack-down&#8221; phase.  </p>
<p>But, if you&#8217;re like me and have ammo rolling around from guns you don&#8217;t even own (I&#8217;ve got .300RUM, .45acp, and lord knows what else all over the deck in my truck&#8230; and I&#8217;ve never even owned either of those), you don&#8217;t have as much to worry about.  </p>
<p>The law specifically states you can&#8217;t have lead ammo AND a firearm that shoots it in the possession while hunting big game.  If it&#8217;s just the ammo and the gun is at home, you&#8217;re fine.  </p>
<p>Of course, defining &#8220;while hunting&#8221; is a slippery one in itself.  So far, I can&#8217;t get a strict answer from DFG about this one.  For example, say I drive down to my favorite A zone spot to hunt deer this fall.  I&#8217;ll be there a few days, so I pack the scattergun for quail.  Of course, the scattergun stays in camp while I&#8217;m deer hunting&#8230; and the rife stays in camp while I&#8217;m quail hunting.  On the way out of the campground to go home, I get stopped&#8230;  am I in violation or not?  I&#8217;m not hunting, I&#8217;m driving home.  </p>
<p>From experience, we all know that&#8217;s going to depend completely on the DFG officer at the time that I&#8217;m stopped.  If he&#8217;s uptight and by-the-book, I&#8217;m gonna get a ticket.  If he&#8217;s more of the practical type, I probably won&#8217;t.  The problem with that is that it leaves the hunters completely at the mercy of the system.  </p>
<p>Oh, and Michael&#8230;  the answer to your question is the topic of today&#8217;s blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: T.Michael Riddle</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>T.Michael Riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep !
Same here Jesse, I bet that I&#039;ve got about a box rolling around in my truck as well if I were to try and gather them up.
My guess is that even the Rangers and Cop&#039;s see the ridiculous nonsense in passing such a ludicrous law and most will not even bother to enforce it, just as so many other such laws have been quietly buried in the same manner.
They just do not have the manpower to do the patrolling, that is unless they get you trapped on foot like they do the poor duck hunters who have only one exit out of where they are hunting.

And this will hold especially true when they find that it costs them more money to try and enforce this law than the revenue it will bring in from the infractions and citations.
 I already see quite a few loopholes and defensible positions which I might take if for some (Strange) unknown reason I get stopped for a traffic violation and, they magically discover a couple of &quot;old&quot; and verdigris covered &quot;lead&quot; bullets laying under my dirt covered floor mat.

Lets see Phillip,   L.S.M.F.T. was Lucky Strikes slogan, A Silly Millimeter Longer, 101 was Belaire, Winston Tastes Good Like A Cigarette Should, That one is obvious!
Im havin&#039; trouble here, it is buried just below the surface of my brain and it is driving me nuts!!!
Which cigarette commercial said: I&#039;d Rather Fight Than Switch.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep !<br />
Same here Jesse, I bet that I&#8217;ve got about a box rolling around in my truck as well if I were to try and gather them up.<br />
My guess is that even the Rangers and Cop&#8217;s see the ridiculous nonsense in passing such a ludicrous law and most will not even bother to enforce it, just as so many other such laws have been quietly buried in the same manner.<br />
They just do not have the manpower to do the patrolling, that is unless they get you trapped on foot like they do the poor duck hunters who have only one exit out of where they are hunting.</p>
<p>And this will hold especially true when they find that it costs them more money to try and enforce this law than the revenue it will bring in from the infractions and citations.<br />
 I already see quite a few loopholes and defensible positions which I might take if for some (Strange) unknown reason I get stopped for a traffic violation and, they magically discover a couple of &#8220;old&#8221; and verdigris covered &#8220;lead&#8221; bullets laying under my dirt covered floor mat.</p>
<p>Lets see Phillip,   L.S.M.F.T. was Lucky Strikes slogan, A Silly Millimeter Longer, 101 was Belaire, Winston Tastes Good Like A Cigarette Should, That one is obvious!<br />
Im havin&#8217; trouble here, it is buried just below the surface of my brain and it is driving me nuts!!!<br />
Which cigarette commercial said: I&#8217;d Rather Fight Than Switch&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the $50 a box group for the new E-tip ammo since I&#039;m shooting a .300 Winmag. You won&#039;t see me sprayin &amp; prayin unless it&#039;s a snot slingin hog chargin.

The one gotcha for me in the no lead nonsense is the not having lead in possession while hunting or in your vehicle. I&#039;ve got shells rolling around in my truck I ain&#039;t see in years. Their under the seat, in the bed liner, in the door compartments, everywhere. That means when I head into a non lead area I&#039;m going to have to unload the truck and make sure all the shells are out like when I go to Mexico. What a pain in the azz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the $50 a box group for the new E-tip ammo since I&#8217;m shooting a .300 Winmag. You won&#8217;t see me sprayin &amp; prayin unless it&#8217;s a snot slingin hog chargin.</p>
<p>The one gotcha for me in the no lead nonsense is the not having lead in possession while hunting or in your vehicle. I&#8217;ve got shells rolling around in my truck I ain&#8217;t see in years. Their under the seat, in the bed liner, in the door compartments, everywhere. That means when I head into a non lead area I&#8217;m going to have to unload the truck and make sure all the shells are out like when I go to Mexico. What a pain in the azz.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2008/07/29/lead-ban-chronicles-id-rather-fight-than-switch/#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear that Weatherby is shooting straight!  I think that&#039;s the norm, actually... although there are a fair number of folks who aren&#039;t having such luck.

Speaking of the old cigarette commercial, I think I have a new logo for the Lead Ban Chronicles posts.  Take a look at the new pic on this post... whaddayathink?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear that Weatherby is shooting straight!  I think that&#8217;s the norm, actually&#8230; although there are a fair number of folks who aren&#8217;t having such luck.</p>
<p>Speaking of the old cigarette commercial, I think I have a new logo for the Lead Ban Chronicles posts.  Take a look at the new pic on this post&#8230; whaddayathink?</p>
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		<title>By: T.Michael Riddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.Michael Riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! I mean 169 yards give or take a yard or two.
I wonder how many people remember the old cigarette commercial from which this title was taken from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! I mean 169 yards give or take a yard or two.<br />
I wonder how many people remember the old cigarette commercial from which this title was taken from?</p>
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