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	<title>Comments on: Lead Ban Chronicles &#8211; Colorado Edition</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2009/02/24/lead-ban-chronicles-colorado-edition/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, yeah, it&#039;s a conspiracy, I&#039;ve been planted to spout revolutionary propaganda!  No Jason, just a hunter with a different perspective than you.  Do I need to have an NRA membership to qualify as a &quot;real&quot; hunter, or is the fact that since I was 10 I&#039;ve been hunting quail, dove, turkey, grouse and deer enough?  My perspective may not be one you like, but at least accept that there are hunters who don&#039;t blindly follow wherever NRA leads.  This country was founded on compromise, how else do you think so many different groups of people with differing interests and cultures can get along?  It may mean we don&#039;t all get what we want, but it&#039;s better than the alternative. 

&quot;Never argue with an idiot, they&#039;ll drag you down to their level and win with experience.&quot; -Anonymous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, yeah, it&#8217;s a conspiracy, I&#8217;ve been planted to spout revolutionary propaganda!  No Jason, just a hunter with a different perspective than you.  Do I need to have an NRA membership to qualify as a &#8220;real&#8221; hunter, or is the fact that since I was 10 I&#8217;ve been hunting quail, dove, turkey, grouse and deer enough?  My perspective may not be one you like, but at least accept that there are hunters who don&#8217;t blindly follow wherever NRA leads.  This country was founded on compromise, how else do you think so many different groups of people with differing interests and cultures can get along?  It may mean we don&#8217;t all get what we want, but it&#8217;s better than the alternative. </p>
<p>&#8220;Never argue with an idiot, they&#8217;ll drag you down to their level and win with experience.&#8221; -Anonymous</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, you&#039;re about an inch from not making sense.  What exactly is it that you think I&#039;ve done?  

First of all, no on can be more than 100% of anything.  110% pro-gun or anti-gun is ridiculous hyperbole.  OK?  So let&#039;s get away from that, and the Rush Limbaugh &quot;flaming liberals&quot; mentality, and talk facts.

Fact number one, the CNN article was NOT anti-gun or anti-hunting.  It was easily one of the best, most balanced hunting-related articles I&#039;ve seen there in a long time.  To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised that it was not slanted... I had a little trepidation about giving that information to the reporter.  But my trust paid off.

Fact number two - If WE don&#039;t talk to reporters at the mainstream media, WHO WILL?  You know the answer as well as I do... the antis and extremists will do all the talking, while we hide under our blankets hoping it will all go away.  And when they get done, they will continue to drive public opinion without any input from us at all.  The majority of the public still supports sport hunting, but that majority is starting to waver, and it&#039;s only through intelligent, fact-based, public discourse that we can hope to hold onto that support. 

Fact number three - lead ammo is destined to obscurity.  It will be abolished, and as hunters and shooters we have the option of working toward a constructive solution that protects our traditions and heritage, or we can scream and rail about the unfairness of it all while non-hunters, environmental activists, and anti-hunters write the laws that will govern us.  

Fact number four- You don&#039;t have to agree with me on this topic, but if the best you can offer is paraoid fantasies about the &quot;eco-freaks&quot; coming to snatch your guns, you&#039;re a lost cause and debate with you is pointless.  What do you have to support your argument?  You demand evidence, but you offer none of your own.  

&lt;i&gt;Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It frustrates you, and it annoys the pig.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, you&#8217;re about an inch from not making sense.  What exactly is it that you think I&#8217;ve done?  </p>
<p>First of all, no on can be more than 100% of anything.  110% pro-gun or anti-gun is ridiculous hyperbole.  OK?  So let&#8217;s get away from that, and the Rush Limbaugh &#8220;flaming liberals&#8221; mentality, and talk facts.</p>
<p>Fact number one, the CNN article was NOT anti-gun or anti-hunting.  It was easily one of the best, most balanced hunting-related articles I&#8217;ve seen there in a long time.  To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised that it was not slanted&#8230; I had a little trepidation about giving that information to the reporter.  But my trust paid off.</p>
<p>Fact number two &#8211; If WE don&#8217;t talk to reporters at the mainstream media, WHO WILL?  You know the answer as well as I do&#8230; the antis and extremists will do all the talking, while we hide under our blankets hoping it will all go away.  And when they get done, they will continue to drive public opinion without any input from us at all.  The majority of the public still supports sport hunting, but that majority is starting to waver, and it&#8217;s only through intelligent, fact-based, public discourse that we can hope to hold onto that support. </p>
<p>Fact number three &#8211; lead ammo is destined to obscurity.  It will be abolished, and as hunters and shooters we have the option of working toward a constructive solution that protects our traditions and heritage, or we can scream and rail about the unfairness of it all while non-hunters, environmental activists, and anti-hunters write the laws that will govern us.  </p>
<p>Fact number four- You don&#8217;t have to agree with me on this topic, but if the best you can offer is paraoid fantasies about the &#8220;eco-freaks&#8221; coming to snatch your guns, you&#8217;re a lost cause and debate with you is pointless.  What do you have to support your argument?  You demand evidence, but you offer none of your own.  </p>
<p><i>Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It frustrates you, and it annoys the pig.</i></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife is 8 months pregnant and after reading this we won&#039;t be eating any of our frozen ground venison till after she delivers. I&#039;ve been a hunter my whole life.  My father is a lifelong hunter as well, but he never supported the NRA precisely because they use fear to promote their agenda and won&#039;t even consider sensible ideas like lead-free ammunition!  I&#039;ll be the first to fight any government efforts to take away our right to bear arms, but I also support sensible efforts to protect Americans from harm.  I agree the evidence may not be conclusive at this time as to whether lead ammunition is harmful, and that&#039;s exactly what the Colorado regulation info states.  The problem is the knee-jerk reaction by NRA types to any ideas that aren&#039;t 110% &quot;pro-gun&quot;. I guarantee you that if any additional evidence is found about lead in meat, it will be dismissed by the NRA as somehow baloney (pun intended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife is 8 months pregnant and after reading this we won&#8217;t be eating any of our frozen ground venison till after she delivers. I&#8217;ve been a hunter my whole life.  My father is a lifelong hunter as well, but he never supported the NRA precisely because they use fear to promote their agenda and won&#8217;t even consider sensible ideas like lead-free ammunition!  I&#8217;ll be the first to fight any government efforts to take away our right to bear arms, but I also support sensible efforts to protect Americans from harm.  I agree the evidence may not be conclusive at this time as to whether lead ammunition is harmful, and that&#8217;s exactly what the Colorado regulation info states.  The problem is the knee-jerk reaction by NRA types to any ideas that aren&#8217;t 110% &#8220;pro-gun&#8221;. I guarantee you that if any additional evidence is found about lead in meat, it will be dismissed by the NRA as somehow baloney (pun intended).</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa there, brother.  

First things first, I haven&#039;t &quot;given&quot; anyone &quot;words to fry us.&quot;  You can thank folks like the HSUS for that.  I&#039;m not the one who put the lead ammo issue in the news, and I&#039;m sure not the one who&#039;s been passing off bad information.  

Likewise, none of this is &quot;MY DATA&quot;.  I&#039;ve been pretty clear all along that I&#039;m not an expert on any of this, but I have been following, collecting, and interpreting the information compiled by others who ARE experts for several years... and while there&#039;s certainly no single, damning bit of evidence, there is enough out there to make a reasonable person stop and consider that this does bear watching... which is all I said in the interview.  

I read the CNN article, and while I was a little disappointed that some of what I felt were key points weren&#039;t included (limited availability for non-standard calibers), the writer actually did a pretty well-balanced piece of work.  I&#039;ll have to read again when the shock of seeing my name in the lead sentence goes away... but the slant is barely perceptible, and is probably accurate to what I had to say, even if I didn&#039;t recognize it at the time.

Lead ammo is on the way out, my friend.  If hunters don&#039;t recognize this and start working proactively, then the rest of the country WILL face mandatory and draconian bans based on the will of the People... because non-hunters don&#039;t give a damn about us.  They will vote on half-assed propaganda from anti-hunting organizations,because hunters will not, and have continued to stick their heads in the sand and hide behind out-moded NRA fear-inducing rhetoric.  

The people who started the lead ammo issue are not anti-hunters.  It was only after the anti-hunters saw this as an opportunity to attack hunters that organizations like HSUS jumped on the bandwagon.  But they have momentum.  Reactions like yours, Jason, are completely counterproductive to stopping this momentum.  

Any idiot can point out the problem. Genius is in offering a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa there, brother.  </p>
<p>First things first, I haven&#8217;t &#8220;given&#8221; anyone &#8220;words to fry us.&#8221;  You can thank folks like the HSUS for that.  I&#8217;m not the one who put the lead ammo issue in the news, and I&#8217;m sure not the one who&#8217;s been passing off bad information.  </p>
<p>Likewise, none of this is &#8220;MY DATA&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been pretty clear all along that I&#8217;m not an expert on any of this, but I have been following, collecting, and interpreting the information compiled by others who ARE experts for several years&#8230; and while there&#8217;s certainly no single, damning bit of evidence, there is enough out there to make a reasonable person stop and consider that this does bear watching&#8230; which is all I said in the interview.  </p>
<p>I read the CNN article, and while I was a little disappointed that some of what I felt were key points weren&#8217;t included (limited availability for non-standard calibers), the writer actually did a pretty well-balanced piece of work.  I&#8217;ll have to read again when the shock of seeing my name in the lead sentence goes away&#8230; but the slant is barely perceptible, and is probably accurate to what I had to say, even if I didn&#8217;t recognize it at the time.</p>
<p>Lead ammo is on the way out, my friend.  If hunters don&#8217;t recognize this and start working proactively, then the rest of the country WILL face mandatory and draconian bans based on the will of the People&#8230; because non-hunters don&#8217;t give a damn about us.  They will vote on half-assed propaganda from anti-hunting organizations,because hunters will not, and have continued to stick their heads in the sand and hide behind out-moded NRA fear-inducing rhetoric.  </p>
<p>The people who started the lead ammo issue are not anti-hunters.  It was only after the anti-hunters saw this as an opportunity to attack hunters that organizations like HSUS jumped on the bandwagon.  But they have momentum.  Reactions like yours, Jason, are completely counterproductive to stopping this momentum.  </p>
<p>Any idiot can point out the problem. Genius is in offering a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2009/02/24/lead-ban-chronicles-colorado-edition/#comment-2682</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Frank... I was afraid of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Frank&#8230; I was afraid of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip, 
Stay in California! There aren&#039;t any elk left out here in Colorado:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip,<br />
Stay in California! There aren&#8217;t any elk left out here in Colorado:)</p>
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