Comments on: Lead Ban Chronicles – A Bombshell from the National Park Service

By: matt caulfield

matt caulfield — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:55:27 +0000

Hey lets think a minute. I have a 13 year old kid, who eats the game we shoot. The non lead heavyshot shotgun loads are superior to lead bullets, and are coming down in price. The non lead California Legal bullets work just fine. I’m already thinking that I don’t want to take that delicious Arizona Elk with lead, I mean, it’s gonna take a few thousand bucks to get permits permission and vacation, so what if the bullet costs 2 dollars instead of one?

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Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:18:52 +0000

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Heads up - Crappie.com — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:18:44 +0000

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By: NorCal Cazadora

NorCal Cazadora — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:58:11 +0000

Agreed. Which is all the more reason we need to hop on now. If we don’t fight now, they’ll take it as acquiescence. I would like to press the NPS for documentation of the problems in the parks associated with lead.

By: Phillip Loughlin

Phillip Loughlin — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:13 +0000

The lead fishing tackle issue has been around as long as the lead ammo deal, if not longer. It doesn’t get a lot of play here on the Hog Blog, because I simply can’t keep up with it all… and since fishing isn’t a big thing for me these days, I don’t follow the issues.

Not sure how this is all gonna play out. It’s possible that the Dept of the Interior and other federal departments (BLM, National Forest Service, Bureau of Reclamation, Dept of Defense, etc.) will follow suit on lands they manage. The National Parks, at least from a hunting perspective, are pretty lightly hunted. A lead ban won’t seem like much of an incursion to the majority of sportsmen.

But this may simply be a test run… If the BLM or Forest Service see this go over without a fight, they may well decide to get on board. Then it’s gonna get rough.

By: NorCal Cazadora

NorCal Cazadora — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:16:08 +0000

Arthur, I think the fact that sinkers are included is FREAKIN’ FANTASTIC. Only 6 percent of American adults hunt; 13 percent FISH. They have more clout than we do. I’m thrilled about that part. But we absolutely must work with the anglers to avoid a situation where the NPS relents on sinkers, but charges full speed ahead on ammo.

By: Arthur

Arthur — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:44:07 +0000

Wow, I can’t say I’m surprised, but it seemed to happen a little faster than I expected. The part that really surprises me, is the inclusion of fishing tackle. That’s a new one.

It does sound, like NorCal said, that we just need to help steer the train in the proper direction, rather than get all up in arms about it leaving.

By: NorCal Cazadora

NorCal Cazadora — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:56:52 +0000

Well, this certainly reinforces the point that this train has left the station, and we need to focus on steering the train down the right track, rather than bemoaning the fact that the train left the station in the first place.

And I’ll say this: the 2010 track seems really fast.

Got any info on how much national parkland is open for public hunting? How many hunters will this affect? How many of them hunt with rimfire?

But here’s the more serious question: If the NPS is doing this, how far behind can the forest service be? I know there’s lots of hunting in national forests. And of course, once CA F&G sees the feds doing this, they’ll feel justified enacting a statewide ban here. Oh boy. Here we go.