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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4610</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome that they were able to communicate with you. I guess I would agree with alot of stuff you say but I am a huge fan of there show and took your comments too personal. I have a tendency to jump the gun and go straight for the throat when I feel defensive. I dont want any one to harm the reputation this guys have built for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome that they were able to communicate with you. I guess I would agree with alot of stuff you say but I am a huge fan of there show and took your comments too personal. I have a tendency to jump the gun and go straight for the throat when I feel defensive. I dont want any one to harm the reputation this guys have built for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4609</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I won&#039;t argue that point.  Ethics can vary from person to person, and I&#039;ve always argued that&#039;s the way it should be... in general.  However, there are some generally accepted parameters on which the majority of hunters agree.  

Like you, I&#039;m primarily a meat hunter, which is one of the reasons I find a Texas Heart Shot so distasteful... besides the critical fact that it&#039;s often not fatal, and seldom quick when it is.  But that&#039;s neither here nor there at this point... discussion complete, point made.

My brief message exchange with Jacob so far shows me that they are good guys with their hearts and minds in the right place, and that they recognize a bad call when they make one (even if it hadn&#039;t been pointed out to them).  I look forward to chatting with Jacob a little more, and we&#039;ll see where that takes us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I won&#8217;t argue that point.  Ethics can vary from person to person, and I&#8217;ve always argued that&#8217;s the way it should be&#8230; in general.  However, there are some generally accepted parameters on which the majority of hunters agree.  </p>
<p>Like you, I&#8217;m primarily a meat hunter, which is one of the reasons I find a Texas Heart Shot so distasteful&#8230; besides the critical fact that it&#8217;s often not fatal, and seldom quick when it is.  But that&#8217;s neither here nor there at this point&#8230; discussion complete, point made.</p>
<p>My brief message exchange with Jacob so far shows me that they are good guys with their hearts and minds in the right place, and that they recognize a bad call when they make one (even if it hadn&#8217;t been pointed out to them).  I look forward to chatting with Jacob a little more, and we&#8217;ll see where that takes us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4608</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ethics of hunting are a little confusing and not quite black and white. What I mean by this that It is considered bad to shoot a deer or large animal on the run, but unethical to shoot a dove, guail or duck in a perched position because it does not give the bird a sporting chance. I hunt for meat first and sport second. Wounding any thing on a hunt accomplishes neither. I hope that the guys from Endless Season show you that they are great guys and if this episode was seen to be bad taste by others then I am sure they got the feed back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ethics of hunting are a little confusing and not quite black and white. What I mean by this that It is considered bad to shoot a deer or large animal on the run, but unethical to shoot a dove, guail or duck in a perched position because it does not give the bird a sporting chance. I hunt for meat first and sport second. Wounding any thing on a hunt accomplishes neither. I hope that the guys from Endless Season show you that they are great guys and if this episode was seen to be bad taste by others then I am sure they got the feed back.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Loughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Loughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, fellas.  Albert,  you just keep dodging those rockets and hurry home... I don&#039;t think there&#039;s gonna be much need for ass kicking around here.  

For what it&#039;s worth, Jacob, from Endless Season Outdoors shot me a note at the end of last week.  I&#039;m planning to chat with him, hopefully today or tomorrow, but the gist of his note was that he and his partner on the show actually had some disagreement about whether to air the footage for the same reasons we&#039;ve discussed here.  He&#039;s now regretting the choice to go ahead and show it, and even told me he&#039;d be contacting Pursuit Channel to get the episode pulled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, fellas.  Albert,  you just keep dodging those rockets and hurry home&#8230; I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s gonna be much need for ass kicking around here.  </p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Jacob, from Endless Season Outdoors shot me a note at the end of last week.  I&#8217;m planning to chat with him, hopefully today or tomorrow, but the gist of his note was that he and his partner on the show actually had some disagreement about whether to air the footage for the same reasons we&#8217;ve discussed here.  He&#8217;s now regretting the choice to go ahead and show it, and even told me he&#8217;d be contacting Pursuit Channel to get the episode pulled.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4606</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip,

I couldn&#039;t agree more.  I see no problem airing the footage if they were intending to use it as a lesson of what not to do, but to brag about a shot, such as the one taken, is awful and will only aid the anti&#039;s by providing them with more &quot;evidence&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I see no problem airing the footage if they were intending to use it as a lesson of what not to do, but to brag about a shot, such as the one taken, is awful and will only aid the anti&#8217;s by providing them with more &#8220;evidence&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert A Rasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert A Rasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;tool for the antis&quot;

Sorry

Albert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;tool for the antis&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry</p>
<p>Albert</p>
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		<title>By: Albert A Rasch</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4604</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert A Rasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now folks, I just want to get a few facts out on the table.

I am all the way in Afghanistan so its not like I can invite just anyone to try and kick my ass.
I use my real name and link to my blog, and just about anyone who tries can figure out where I live.
I work as hard as anyone else here for my living, I just budget my time to blog, just like all the other bloggers do.
I am not a liberal, and I am not a member of any religious organization.

Having said that, I too find the vast majority of hunting shows, and videos for that matter unwatchable. They teach very little if anything, they do show an incredible amount of poor marksmanship, and I have seen what I consider to be unethical behavior more times than I care to recall. I haven&#039;t tuned into a single one of those shows in years.

To excuse a 300 meter running Texas heart shot as being ethical is the height of foolishness. I wouldn&#039;t allow it of myself, my friends, or of my children. Nor should anyone else for that matter. That it happened to work this time doesn&#039;t make it right!

I&#039;ve killed 189 hogs in my life. All but one, that&#039;s right one, have been clean one shot kills. I will admit that on several I did administer a coup de grace with my Ruger MKII just to be sure. The only time I have needed a second shot was with a weapon that wasn&#039;t mine, and that was my first hog and lesson learned.

I would never, ever, shoot where I was not 100% certain of making the shot. AND to watch folks shoot, wound, miss, screw up, gutshoot, and in general make a mockery of hunting and shooting, is insulting and demeaning to that which I hold holy.

These shows are nothing more than a tol for the antis. When billions of dollars and traditions far deeper than any pocket
are at stake, I think that these production companies can toss the film, and do the right thing.

Now I should be home at the end of August for a couple of weeks... If anyone would care to call me out...

Albert A Rasch
&lt;a href=&quot;http://trochronicles.blogspot.com/2010/07/national-hunting-and-fishing-day-92510.html#links&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Rasch Outdoor Chronicles: National Hunting and Fishing Day 9/25/10&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now folks, I just want to get a few facts out on the table.</p>
<p>I am all the way in Afghanistan so its not like I can invite just anyone to try and kick my ass.<br />
I use my real name and link to my blog, and just about anyone who tries can figure out where I live.<br />
I work as hard as anyone else here for my living, I just budget my time to blog, just like all the other bloggers do.<br />
I am not a liberal, and I am not a member of any religious organization.</p>
<p>Having said that, I too find the vast majority of hunting shows, and videos for that matter unwatchable. They teach very little if anything, they do show an incredible amount of poor marksmanship, and I have seen what I consider to be unethical behavior more times than I care to recall. I haven&#8217;t tuned into a single one of those shows in years.</p>
<p>To excuse a 300 meter running Texas heart shot as being ethical is the height of foolishness. I wouldn&#8217;t allow it of myself, my friends, or of my children. Nor should anyone else for that matter. That it happened to work this time doesn&#8217;t make it right!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve killed 189 hogs in my life. All but one, that&#8217;s right one, have been clean one shot kills. I will admit that on several I did administer a coup de grace with my Ruger MKII just to be sure. The only time I have needed a second shot was with a weapon that wasn&#8217;t mine, and that was my first hog and lesson learned.</p>
<p>I would never, ever, shoot where I was not 100% certain of making the shot. AND to watch folks shoot, wound, miss, screw up, gutshoot, and in general make a mockery of hunting and shooting, is insulting and demeaning to that which I hold holy.</p>
<p>These shows are nothing more than a tol for the antis. When billions of dollars and traditions far deeper than any pocket<br />
are at stake, I think that these production companies can toss the film, and do the right thing.</p>
<p>Now I should be home at the end of August for a couple of weeks&#8230; If anyone would care to call me out&#8230;</p>
<p>Albert A Rasch<br />
<a href="http://trochronicles.blogspot.com/2010/07/national-hunting-and-fishing-day-92510.html#links" rel="nofollow">The Rasch Outdoor Chronicles: National Hunting and Fishing Day 9/25/10</a></p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4603</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess since I&#039;ve been called out by name I do need to respond somehow, but in seeing your original response and additional responses Jason and Shanna, I can&#039;t say much has changed.  That much venom spewing out does no one much good and it usually means someone has got their toes stepped on on issues close to home.  

I will say that Phillip has laid it out as kindly as possible the damage to all of us that this type of action does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess since I&#8217;ve been called out by name I do need to respond somehow, but in seeing your original response and additional responses Jason and Shanna, I can&#8217;t say much has changed.  That much venom spewing out does no one much good and it usually means someone has got their toes stepped on on issues close to home.  </p>
<p>I will say that Phillip has laid it out as kindly as possible the damage to all of us that this type of action does.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.skinnymoose.com/hogblog/2010/07/20/rant-time/#comment-4602</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shanna and Jason, thanks for at least being brave enough to offer names, although that&#039;s it.  

My shot (and that&#039;s a good question, by the way) was a good shot, a 12 yard broadside shot at a doe with a recurve, with no brush between us.  However, I screwed it up, over-drew in my adrenaline, and pulled right.  I shot her in the head and she fell right there.  It wasn&#039;t a good shot, and I should have taken the time to calm myself, even if it meant not getting a shot at all.  

We all make mistakes, some political, some in the heat of the moment.  To bring in liberalism and infer that the blog author is liberal for bringing this up, as if liberals are the only ones with ethics, may make me feel better, but it isn&#039;t true.  I concede that conservatives have ethics, too, and shouldn&#039;t be condoning bad shots.  

What does the Bible say about taking bad shots?  I suggest you look it up, because it does speak to that issue.

I will end with this:  Whosoever shall say &quot;raca&quot; (fool), is in danger of hellfire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shanna and Jason, thanks for at least being brave enough to offer names, although that&#8217;s it.  </p>
<p>My shot (and that&#8217;s a good question, by the way) was a good shot, a 12 yard broadside shot at a doe with a recurve, with no brush between us.  However, I screwed it up, over-drew in my adrenaline, and pulled right.  I shot her in the head and she fell right there.  It wasn&#8217;t a good shot, and I should have taken the time to calm myself, even if it meant not getting a shot at all.  </p>
<p>We all make mistakes, some political, some in the heat of the moment.  To bring in liberalism and infer that the blog author is liberal for bringing this up, as if liberals are the only ones with ethics, may make me feel better, but it isn&#8217;t true.  I concede that conservatives have ethics, too, and shouldn&#8217;t be condoning bad shots.  </p>
<p>What does the Bible say about taking bad shots?  I suggest you look it up, because it does speak to that issue.</p>
<p>I will end with this:  Whosoever shall say &#8220;raca&#8221; (fool), is in danger of hellfire.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip, I say &quot;my&quot; God because He is the one I serve...not out of &#039;enslaving&#039; or &#039;ownership&#039;. I do not know your religious beliefs, but I take offense when you use the name of the One I serve in such anger and hate, no matter what form you use it in. 
 Aside from that, I believe this is a neverending debate where everyone involved will hold strong to their opinions. I will end my part with agreeing to disagree with you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip, I say &#8220;my&#8221; God because He is the one I serve&#8230;not out of &#8216;enslaving&#8217; or &#8216;ownership&#8217;. I do not know your religious beliefs, but I take offense when you use the name of the One I serve in such anger and hate, no matter what form you use it in.<br />
 Aside from that, I believe this is a neverending debate where everyone involved will hold strong to their opinions. I will end my part with agreeing to disagree with you&#8230;</p>
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