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	<title>Comments on: New York Game Wardens Go Green No more Lead Ammo</title>
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		<title>By: GrillingGreg</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrillingGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about accuracy.  We&#039;re talking handguns, so it&#039;s degrees of paper plate at 20 feet, not groups at 200 yards.  If you can hit a paper plate with green ammo, you&#039;ll be able to hit it with lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about accuracy.  We&#8217;re talking handguns, so it&#8217;s degrees of paper plate at 20 feet, not groups at 200 yards.  If you can hit a paper plate with green ammo, you&#8217;ll be able to hit it with lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Environmental Health &#187; New York Game Wardens Go Green No more Lead Ammo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Environmental Health &#187; New York Game Wardens Go Green No more Lead Ammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Department Of Health &#187; New York Game Wardens Go Green No more Lead Ammo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Department Of Health &#187; New York Game Wardens Go Green No more Lead Ammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks can definitely start looking for this in their neck of the woods.  I&#039;d actually expect to see a move away from lead affect target ranges much sooner than it affects hunters, since the lead accumulation in the ground has proven to be a really significant pollution issue when it leaches into the groundwater supply.  Law enforcement and public shooting ranges around the country have found that the costs of clean-up are extremely high... and landowners are being held responsible for groundwater pollutants.  

The military experimented with tungsten bullets in the northeast (MD or NH, I can&#039;t remember) and found that the tungsten was actually worse.   

Right now, the race to develop green ammo is proceeding pretty slowly, but it will most likely accelerate now that CA has passed this lead ban, and more and more shooting ranges are being challenged to protect the environment.  Copper ammo (Barnes) is good, but still expensive.   There are other alternatives, but most are still very new and haven&#039;t been tested thoroughly.

By the way, for most hunters who are interested in &quot;going green&quot;, the Barnes bullets really do offer superior performance in many guns.  While there are some folks who&#039;ve had negative experiences, the newer bullets such as the TSX and MRX are pretty consistent in turning out tight groups and excellent terminal performance.  The original &quot;X&quot; bullet from Barnes was more problematic, and is usually the culprit when you read or hear about horror stories such as barrel fouling, inconsistent accuracy, etc.  This isn&#039;t a plug for Barnes, so much as it is to suggest that folks give it a try before knocking it.  

By the way, if you&#039;re opposed to anti-lead legislation, I&#039;d encourage you to get active in the legislative process and discussions now and stay that way.  Sportsmen need to make their voices heard, or we&#039;ll continue to be treated as a politically insignificant &quot;fringe&quot; group... as we have seen here in California.  

Thanks for the link, Moose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks can definitely start looking for this in their neck of the woods.  I&#8217;d actually expect to see a move away from lead affect target ranges much sooner than it affects hunters, since the lead accumulation in the ground has proven to be a really significant pollution issue when it leaches into the groundwater supply.  Law enforcement and public shooting ranges around the country have found that the costs of clean-up are extremely high&#8230; and landowners are being held responsible for groundwater pollutants.  </p>
<p>The military experimented with tungsten bullets in the northeast (MD or NH, I can&#8217;t remember) and found that the tungsten was actually worse.   </p>
<p>Right now, the race to develop green ammo is proceeding pretty slowly, but it will most likely accelerate now that CA has passed this lead ban, and more and more shooting ranges are being challenged to protect the environment.  Copper ammo (Barnes) is good, but still expensive.   There are other alternatives, but most are still very new and haven&#8217;t been tested thoroughly.</p>
<p>By the way, for most hunters who are interested in &#8220;going green&#8221;, the Barnes bullets really do offer superior performance in many guns.  While there are some folks who&#8217;ve had negative experiences, the newer bullets such as the TSX and MRX are pretty consistent in turning out tight groups and excellent terminal performance.  The original &#8220;X&#8221; bullet from Barnes was more problematic, and is usually the culprit when you read or hear about horror stories such as barrel fouling, inconsistent accuracy, etc.  This isn&#8217;t a plug for Barnes, so much as it is to suggest that folks give it a try before knocking it.  </p>
<p>By the way, if you&#8217;re opposed to anti-lead legislation, I&#8217;d encourage you to get active in the legislative process and discussions now and stay that way.  Sportsmen need to make their voices heard, or we&#8217;ll continue to be treated as a politically insignificant &#8220;fringe&#8221; group&#8230; as we have seen here in California.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the link, Moose.</p>
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